SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hi. I'm going to Knockhill next month, so i'm curious what are you think about this set up: Suspension: Toyota OEM dampers Eibach Pro Spring Carbing front and rear strut brace TRD front and rear sway bar Toyo Proxes T1-R + wheel alignment Brakes: UK TT brakes (full set) OEM UK TT discs Chris Wilson fast road pads TRD brake fluid PTFE lined braided hoses Power: Still stock N/A except of HKS Hyper Titanium exhaust. I still didn't buy some parts, so please feel free to make changes in this set up. Tomasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Should be fine with that setup, only thing I'd change would be the tires to 888s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Should be fine with that setup, only thing I'd change would be the tires to 888s I very like Toyo Proxes T1-R because are great on wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Another vote for R888s here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I suppose it depends how it's being driven, but the pads were not good enough when I went (someone else driving, obviously.. ). They aren't trackday pads so it's reasonable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I very like Toyo Proxes T1-R because are great on wet. I'm sure they are, but I wouldnt care about doing a wet track day, so I'd want all the grip I can get in the dry, hence the 888s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_mcevoy Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 He's going to Knockhill... it alway rains there I'm sure they are, but I wouldnt care about doing a wet track day, so I'd want all the grip I can get in the dry, hence the 888s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Ah good point Suggest he gets some new wings on order too then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 I suppose it depends how it's being driven, but the pads were not good enough when I went (someone else driving, obviously.. ). They aren't trackday pads so it's reasonable enough. Are TRD fast road pads better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Tried stock UK pads? I've used them and not really had any issues with them on my last 2 track days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Are TRD fast road pads better? I would've thought that if you were *really* going for it, then no road pads would be any good. But then, you don't need to be hammering it all the time do you, especially if it's an amateur day. I went to an amateur day and the chap who was showing me how you're meant to do it had bucketloads of smoke pouring out of my wheel arches after a few laps with the CW fast road pads. Of course when I drove around, there was none of that going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Smoke out of the wheel arches? Sounds like he was drifting rather than braking Either that or you dont have ABS and he was locking up the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'd want to know the wet and dry boiling points for the TRD fluid, I don't know how it stacks up against the likes of Motul RBF600, the AP range et cetera. Knockhill is quite hard on brakes, but if it's your first track day you should be OK. It's a circuit I love, and know well, have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 It's a circuit I love, and know well, have fun! Is there a circuit you don't? You done Cadwell much Chris? One of my fav's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'd want to know the wet and dry boiling points for the TRD fluid dry: 282℃; wet: 184℃ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Great time had there watching some special Ferrari's, including 03 F1 driven by Barrichello, fastest lap ever. Mr Wilson will know that just before the nasty uphill right hander that leads to the start finish, it gets bad bumpy. One of the specials all but took off, so no brakes lol. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 ... Have fun. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Thanks! You probably won't be doing that corner mate. Just before it tries to get you there's a much better corner that's used in stock races. Much healthier too. Loads of rwyb track days there. We had a great time trying to kill a Cayenne in a MR2. Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Are HKS hypermax III coilovers far and away better than Toyota OEM dampers + Eibach pro springs setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Are HKS hypermax III coilovers far and away better than Toyota OEM dampers + Eibach pro springs setup? No, IMO they are utter rubbish, and the shock dyno agrees with me Proper dampers are nearly always made in Germany, the UK, or Scandinavia, pick one of the below and you won't go wrong: Bilstein, Koni, Proflex, JRZ, Quantum, Penske, Eibachs (no longer made but can be assembled from original parts). Some are eye wateringly expensive. Koni and Bilstein and (I think...) JRZ do off the shelf kits. I do custom valved Bilsteins and Konis for most applications. I can also build up and supply Eibachs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 No, IMO they are utter rubbish, and the shock dyno agrees with me Proper dampers are nearly always made in Germany, the UK, or Scandinavia, pick one of the below and you won't go wrong: Bilstein, Koni, Proflex, JRZ, Quantum, Penske, Eibachs (no longer made but can be assembled from original parts). Some are eye wateringly expensive. Koni and Bilstein and (I think...) JRZ do off the shelf kits. I do custom valved Bilsteins and Konis for most applications. I can also build up and supply Eibachs. You are a star! What can you say about TRD brake fluid? [boiling points: dry: 282℃; wet: 184℃] Is motul RBF600 fluid better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 You are a star! What can you say about TRD brake fluid? [boiling points: dry: 282℃; wet: 184℃] Is motul RBF600 fluid better? The boiling points for RBF600 are 312°C/593°F dry and 216°C/420°F wet, so it's a LOT better. The figures back it up, I am not just trying to sell you some, but I can if you so wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 The figures back it up, I am not just trying to sell you some, but I can if you so wish Maybe you can do my N/A-T conversion Chris? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Maybe you can do my N/A-T conversion Chris? ... I'll do most things, but I would be honour bound to say you'd be much better off buying a TT, or a car someone's already blown money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Is motul RBF600 fluid better? Yes, but not as good as Castrol SRF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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