AJI Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 You hear day in day out that thieving scum have taken this car and that car etc. Many of these cars have alarms and more importantly immobilisers. How is it in this day and age that immobilisers are easy to bypass and thieving scum can pick and choose what they want to nick ?? We pay x amount of hundreds of pound to get CAT 1 systems installed, but if it only adds an extra few seconds of time for the thieving scum to get the car started then whats the point? (Just heard of yet another car that has been stolen in my area by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I thought the vast majority of thefts these days are where the thief get his hands on the keys! We have our Celica nicked about 5 years ago and they got in through the side door of our house and found the wife's handbag. We now always take the keys to the Supe and the BMW up to bed with us. I sometimes leave the Mondeo keys lying around because anyone would be barmy to pinch such an average car!! H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garetheves Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 We now always take the keys to the Supe and the BMW up to bed with us. You are into the kinky stuff then H?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I heard that Porsche 911s are the most stolen car (ratio of how many there are), and usually they are dragged onto a flatbed and taken away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 You are into the kinky stuff then H?? I have e-mailed pics for your perusal!! H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I thjink one of the reasons is because people don't talk to each other anymore. If neighbourhoods were like they used to be where everybody knew everyone elses business they would know that something was wrong when Mr flashboys porsche was being towed away on a flat bed Also cowardice and worries of getting attacked stop people from intervening, i reckon that scooby that got stripped by the pikies was probably seen by loads of people but they were probably worried about repurcussions so did the easy thing and walked on by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Keys and insecure wireless technologies (RFID tag stealing) - http://slashdot.org/articles/06/05/25/1225235.shtml Harder now newer car are using stronger keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Will always fall down to no matter how good your alarm system is if a thief wants your car he will have it. That is why I went for a basic CAT1 alarm, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Modern cars have good anti-theft systems that use crypto-pats (rolling code encrypted professional anti theft system) that is linked from the key transponder to the ECU to the (in diesel engines) fuel pump and other ECU controlled parts. If the key transponder code is incorrect, or the pump code is incorrect, or the ECU does not recieve a code in a specified time then the vehicle is immobilised.... for good!! This level of security is so good that modern cars are now only stolen with the keys, or lifted onto flatbeds. Without keys though they can only be broken for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 But for the likes of most imported japanese cars that only come with alarms as standard most people fit aftermarket immobilisers such as Toad Ai606 etc. I hear of lots of these types of cars being stolen on various forums in the UK. Lots of scoobies, EVOs etc. etc. Are all these cases where the theiving scummers have got hold of the keys or hired a flat-bed? I think there should be much tougher laws for car crimes where there is a victim. (ie. the owner in these cases) If I saw a scummer trying to nick my car I think it would end in me being up for a manslaughter charge ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I used to work in Chichester Crown/Mag courts and used to deal with the clients either from prison or the local nick. I have had plenty of good advice from some of them. one of which is classed as one of the best car thiefs in west sussex. He gave me a few tips to protect your car, He told me that if he wanted to steal a car, he would go up to it and look to see what alarm was fitted, ie, he would look at the little stickers that get stuck on all windows. Then he would know how to break into the car and drive off in it without the alarm going off, because he knew how to bypass that type of alarm. this was the tip that he told me, that would even catch him out, so please do use this top tip Use another sticker for exp, if you had Toad alarm fitted, put lazerline stickers in window instead. this way, the thief will see lazerline and and try to bypass a lazerline alarm, but it will be a toad and will catch him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 of course my last post would not stop the flatbed method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 of course my last post would not stop the flatbed method Unless tilt sensors were fitted..... Linked to M18A1 claymores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hmmm... club buy on "Pete Super Alarm" window stickers anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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