Wez Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hey All, What to get and where to buy it from? Does anyone have one fitted and can share pics and experiences. Are they easy to install, could I do it myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hey All, What to get and where to buy it from? Does anyone have one fitted and can share pics and experiences. Are they easy to install, could I do it myself? They are relatively easy to fit just drilling and bolt together, some modification to trim/carpet would be needed. 4 or 5 point Carbing rear roll cage, there is a certain HK trader on the forum I believe who can supply them http://www.okuyama-go.to/products/carbing/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Cant read that but looking at number 10, 12, 13 and 14 images. How much do these cost and are they Supra fitment or do I have to cut to size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Paul Whiffin fitted one to his, might be a good person to ask for advice about what you want if you're intending to use it for race use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Cant read that but looking at number 10, 12, 13 and 14 images. How much do these cost and are they Supra fitment or do I have to cut to size? They are specifically designed to fit the Supra. If you are wanting a full cage, then best to buy locally, as postage would be expensive from here for the bigger ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I seem to recall CW's view on roll cages being along the lines of they're relatively useless unless they're welded in. that's not to say that a bolt in jobby won't do ANYTHING, perhaps just that it wouldn't justify the cost? if Paul Whiffin has one perhaps he can enlighten us as to whether it has made a difference or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My insurance company said my premium would rise if I fitted a roll cage. Don't really understand that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My insurance company said my premium would rise if I fitted a roll cage. Don't really understand that i think it's something to do with restricted access for passengers as well as the fact they may knock themselves out on it in the event of an impact etc. etc. nice to see you on here Alan by the way, hope you had a good festive season and hope you have a better 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Passengers???? lol And ta, its been a bit rough but hopefully ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The mounting points for even bolt in cages need welded on reinforcements otherwise they will just punch through the thin steel of the bodyshell. As this makes a mess and needs painting you might as well weld the thing in. There are roll cages and there are bling bits of bent tube... If you intend to ever use the car for RAC MSA sanctioned events you need a certified cage, fitted by certified fitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My car came from Japan with a 6 point cage bolted in, but i couldnt get in the damn car within 3 minutes, use the sun visors, use the rear seat, see very well out the back I took it out! Im currently thinking of removing my rear seats (never met anyone who could sit in them without complaining!) having a small rear cage and harnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My car came from Japan with a 6 point cage bolted in, but i couldnt get in the damn car within 3 minutes, use the sun visors, use the rear seat, see very well out the back I took it out! I saw your car when it was in Jurgen's garage.. I was after a cage at that time - ended up buying one of ebay for 400 quid, bolt in... it was padded and I covered it in black alcantera - looks discreet and no one really notices. It comes come out pretty quick too if needed. a family request more than my own, but every supra I have seen roll so far has had a lot of a pillar damage. Now I come to think of it the base would probably punch out of the floor.. it's is not strong, but it offers more protection than stock though. They are a pain to get in and out of, and sat in the car there is not much room for a helmet.. but I like it, have got used to it... but it keeps the girlfriend and family happy.. wez - you'll see it at donnington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 forgot to add - when you pull out over steep kerbs and the like you can hear it move against the body of the car as the apolstery changes position. I never really realised how much cars twist until having one. Getting it welded in all over would help stiffen, but I don't fancy getting the blowtorch out.. would make a difference on a stipped track car though I recon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Would be great to check it out at Donnington, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I saw your car when it was in Jurgen's garage.. I was after a cage at that time Oh yeah, i remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 The mounting points for even bolt in cages need welded on reinforcements otherwise they will just punch through the thin steel of the bodyshell. As this makes a mess and needs painting you might as well weld the thing in. There are roll cages and there are bling bits of bent tube... If you intend to ever use the car for RAC MSA sanctioned events you need a certified cage, fitted by certified fitters. Chris, any ideas where I could source the parts locally to fit myself, we have a welder etc so just need the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 You'll have to have a custom cage made, I don't believe there are any decent cages available off the shelf. Rollcentre are good, but they expect a stripped car without glass in it! If you mean the reinforcements you would have to buy sheet steel, and guillotine and bend ad gusset to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Are the off the shelf Sparco etc units no good, I am not looking for competition spec just a little extra safety on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Show me a picture of one, and the material specs and I can tell you. I have seen some where the front door forward tubes, than run from floor to top of door aperture are doglegged, and these would just cripple and fold on a roof impact, very very poor design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Looking for something like 13 or 14 on this link :- http://www.okuyama-go.to/products/carbing/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Tjhey look OK, design wise, if they have decent pads on the "feet" and are of CDS steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 What do you mean pads and whats CDS steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 By pads I mean metal plates welded onto the ends of the tube that act as feet to spread the load, so the tube ends don't act as spears to punch through the floorpan. These pads bolt onto, or weld onto, pads welded to the floorpan of the car, so as to make a sandwich construction speading the loads in the event of a crash. CDS is cold drawn seamless. Seamed tube is weak, CDS is strong and made to a high standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Are roll cages something you would supply or just put onto another supplier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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