Rob Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Well, after nine years I've just about had it with my job (architect) and whilst on holiday I went for three interviews, I now have a second interview tomorrow, but the last time I had an interview was 9 years ago when I was a scruffy student. What "extra" should I be getting across in my second interview? It's with a different director to the ones I first met. Letter of resignation...if I let myself go I'll fill it with bile and hatred and recriminations, and send it to all staff so they know just what sort of vicious fucksplash is employing them, could be a bad idea but I love the smell of burning bridges. Should it be just formal i.e. I am leaving on x date in accordance with my contract, or should I give reasons for leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Simple - formal. That's all it needs to be. You don't have to give reasons. If they're a half decent company and they're interested why they'll offer an exit interview. Dear x, Please take this letter as official notice of formal notice of resignation. I wish to terminate my employment with XXXXX on xx/xx/06 at 17:00. Thank you for my time at XXX ..... carry on if you want to be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The second interview tends to be a lot more in depth about what you've done - just try to relate some of your skills (er... such as project management etc) to your new role... good luck - oh and keep it formal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Is it a major job change then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Always leave a job or appointment with your dignity intact - you never know what other bridges that you could be destroying for yourself in the future if the proverbial teddy gets its legs pulled off in your resignation letter! This is a small world we live in and other people will inevitably migrate between companies, so you can never quite tell who you will be working with/for in the future. Head Held High Sir!! /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_grin.gif Letter of resignation...if I let myself go I'll fill it with bile and hatred and recriminations, and send it to all staff so they know just what sort of vicious fucksplash is employing them, could be a bad idea but I love the smell of burning bridges. Should it be just formal i.e. I am leaving on x date in accordance with my contract, or should I give reasons for leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 SupraAyf Sensible advice I think, thankyou. I'm just a bit twisted and going slightly mental at the moment. It's all I think about in those moments when my brain should be unoccupied, like doing the hoovering or cutting the lawn or even just sitting in the bath. Supragal, yes it is a major job change, I've been in this job for 9 years and other than the MD and one Director, I am the longest standing person. I think that because of that, all the mistakes I've ever made stay with me whereas other new people start with a clean sheet. I tried to be a director but failed because I was running one office entirely on my own, and I couldn't get new work in because I was working a 12-hour day jsut to keep up with the work I had already. See look, I've started moaning about it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_a Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Sounds like a refresh will be good - i'm doing the same myself at the moment. Change is as good as a rest as they say. I think you can get stuck in a rut and taken for granted if you've been there as long as you have, even if you don't realise it. Right about burning bridges though. You are in a specialised job and i bet people move around a lot as people go for the best people, because of that you need to be careful what you say. Don't criticise your present company at the interview either, makes you seem like a moaner. Say why you are looking to move "gone as far as i can" etc without saying "bunch of bastards that are leeching the very life from my soul" m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Cool nice one. Full respect to you for making the leap. Are you finding you have to start with a lower pay? That's what worries me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I'm in a similar position myself. Leave professionally with your dignity and credability in tact but do take the oppertunatey to provide some useful feedback to the company (exit interviews etc). Problem is, if you moan too much inappropriately people will just think you are having a rant and stop listening, which obviously is the last thing you want. I know it is difficult, I've tried to bite my tongue at my place and yet still feel I've said too much (and yet not enough!). At the end of the day you have to consider it is just a job, often easy come easy go as they say. Vote with your feet if it is that bad, but yes it is a very small world sometimes, especially in specialist areas, so only burn the bridges you're 100% sure you will never need again, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 I am at top whack pay for the area, and I'm trying to move to a more rural area where pay would be lower, but given my previously posted financial #ahem# embarrassment I can't afford to take much less, maybe a 2k drop at best. You're all definitely right though, the number of people who have started here who have all met each other previously is amazing. I was careful not to be negative at the interviews, and I've interviewed a few people myself. I suppose I'm bound to run into my employers in the next 30 years, so I'll have to be nice, god knows I've been so two-faced for the last few years but lets just say bowel cancer would be too good for one person in particular. I'll move on and forget, else I'll be scanning the obituaries for the rest of my life. See, I may be be all laughs and dodgy jokes on the outside but deep down I'm a really spiteful, blackhearted and vindictive bastard:grouphug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 lol work can make you twisted but ultimately life is too short and you have to move on. consider it a positive step for the best, an oppertunatey to do better, not a last resort because you've been forced into it. as for second interviews, often that means you're virtually in, just don't drop any clangers. Come accross enthusiastic, motivated etc and you should be in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 as for second interviews, often that means you're virtually in, just don't drop any clangers. Come accross enthusiastic, motivated etc and you should be in there So picking up a family photo off the guy's desk and saying "Ooh, your daughter's a hottie, any holiday snaps?" would be a no-no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well it went well, they're going to make me an offer tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well it went well, they're going to make me an offer tomorrow. well done buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Rob, no worries mate as most of us will have/will go there at some stage! Very best of luck with the new job though; it sounds as if you deserve it. Best Regards buddy, Andrew SupraAyf Sensible advice I think, thankyou. I'm just a bit twisted and going slightly mental at the moment. It's all I think about in those moments when my brain should be unoccupied, like doing the hoovering or cutting the lawn or even just sitting in the bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 (gordon ramsey) Notice....hand in....short meeting...DONE(/Ramsey) New job secured, slightly more pay, less travel to work but still on lovely country A-Roads. Reasons for leaving, i.e. back-stabbing MD, presented in cool, professional manner. Feel slightly embarrassed about turning up to new job in Supra, ooh er, what's that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 (gordon ramsey) Notice....hand in....short meeting...DONE(/Ramsey) New job secured, slightly more pay, less travel to work but still on lovely country A-Roads. Reasons for leaving, i.e. back-stabbing MD, presented in cool, professional manner. Feel slightly embarrassed about turning up to new job in Supra, ooh er, what's that all about? hehe - i've got my exit interview on thursday - thing is i can/want to say a lot but at the same time i dont want to burn bridges - just shit on em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 personally i would keep them sweet so if you need a reference..... get the drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 Actually, what is the deal with references? I've got a form from an agency who supplied this guy a few weeks ago. He was pretty piss poor, can I put that or do I have to be diplomatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Actually, what is the deal with references? I've got a form from an agency who supplied this guy a few weeks ago. He was pretty piss poor, can I put that or do I have to be diplomatic? as far as im aware - you can only say good things - else its no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 Looks like its a big, slow, tardy, taking too much time off, unreliable and had to re-draw his work No Comment then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Actually, what is the deal with references? I've got a form from an agency who supplied this guy a few weeks ago. He was pretty piss poor, can I put that or do I have to be diplomatic? yeah you cant say stuff like the guy was a waste of oxygen, or you will get lynched if you do want to slag him off you have got to be very tactful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 A bad reference would read as follows, " I can confirm that Mr x worked for this company" the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 I can't even say that, (rollercopter). Hmm, perhaps "Mr x attended work on occasion and did not assault anyone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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