mikeyb10supra Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Sorry dude, can't comment - not seen it in enough detail...I'd expect it to be very similar to the Blitz unit though. No probs, im in the process off fitting one as we speak along with twin Spal push fans, to force air through the rad, will let you know how it goes once I have it fully ducted it and put the fans in place Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I've just had a look at the MGT FMIC... Same issue's as the Hybrid FMIC I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Of course it's dyno proven...against a knackered stocker DOH - thats the point! You are replacing a knackered stocker... With one that does a better job for just £295.00 Love and kisses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I've just had a look at the MGT FMIC... Same issue's as the Hybrid FMIC I'm afraid. Again - DYNO PROVEN to do the job - so all the conjecture in the world is'nt going to stack up! No matter how you must really hate that More love XXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 So pretty much they are proven better than a 16yr old crumbled stocker. And they are cheap. Two completely valid reasons to buy them, of course, but as soon as flow path and flow capacity and pressure drop and overall charge cooling ability come into the equation it's a different case. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 just from another perspective, a single dyno run wont prove too much, it really needs multiple runs back to back to establish how the IC copes, and if it suffers from heat soak. As Ian said, pressure drop across the core is another issue So pretty much they are proven better than a 16yr old crumbled stocker. And they are cheap. Two completely valid reasons to buy them, of course, but as soon as flow path and flow capacity and pressure drop and overall charge cooling ability come into the equation it's a different case. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 just from another perspective, a single dyno run wont prove too much, it really needs multiple runs back to back to establish how the IC copes, and if it suffers from heat soak. As Ian said, pressure drop across the core is another issue hi terry what intercooler did you run with your old hybrid set up and what boost did it cope ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 So pretty much they are proven better than a 16yr old crumbled stocker. And they are cheap. Two completely valid reasons to buy them, of course... -Ian Nuff said really... All the conjecture and what if's and but's etc dont mean a thing... I am sure you could buy a race proven one to satisfy every critique - think I was speaking to Chris who mention £10K+... Anyway - I am not forcing anyone to buy one... or make any wild exagerated claims about their abilities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Fecking hell, one week is this IC, the next its that IC........some of us buy more IC's on recommmendations then hookers get business....... So given that your stocker IC was brand new, but you had to find an FM alternative (just becuse you do, before you say "but why would you want to"), nothing too big 2 row or 3 row, which would be your best option, remembering of course your not replacing a knackard stocker but trying to find a direct replacement for a A1 condition stocker, that A) is of good design to not stop rad air flow and B) actually cool charge temps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 hi terry what intercooler did you run with your old hybrid set up and what boost did it cope ok HKS R type mate, which TBH was over kill. If it were my money I would buy the Blitz LM FMIC, or if single is on the horizon, a GReddy 3 Row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 HKS R type mate, which TBH was over kill. If it were my money I would buy the Blitz LM FMIC, or if single is on the horizon, a GReddy 3 Row. how would you rate a greddy two row with a smalish single El Tel, I was hoping to use one with a view to going with a bl61 at some point?? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 that A) is of good design to not stop rad air flow and B) actually cool charge temps Ahh..there's the rub mate As you and I both know from experience - the restrictive nature of an FMIC can cause mucho problems... with the rad and heat soak capability etc IMHO I would only use a 2 row that had really good air flow through to the rad Hang on - I have an article hear from Modified Mag in the USA doing a test on some of the ebay ones - I'll see if I can find it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Ahh..there's the rub mate As you and I both know from experience - the restrictive nature of an FMIC can cause mucho problems... with the rad and heat soak capability etc IMHO I would only use a 2 row that had really good air flow through to the rad Hang on - I have an article hear from Modified Mag in the USA doing a test on some of the ebay ones - I'll see if I can find it... I know mate, and thats the reason Im asking, Im still suffering some slight heat soak issues even with a smaller Hybrid 2 row, its not no where near as bad, but Im now about to drop a PWR rad in to kill off that final bit of heat soak, I hope Does anyone know what mods the PWR rad needs to get it in, I have heard there are a few slight modifications neeeded to get it in. I have chosen this over the Fluidyne as a) its half the price and b) slightly thicker, so Im told.........but dont need a major PITA in getting it in, anyone ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 how would you rate a greddy two row with a smalish single El Tel, I was hoping to use one with a view to going with a bl61 at some point?? Mike Cant really say mate, never seen one up close, just on a car. The reason I said GReddy 3 Row is the piping mates straight up to the BL kit when you go single. As far as airflow to the radiator goes, I have had no issue with the Blitz LM, and I know Burt runs a GReddy 3 Row with no issue, which includes a track day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Never had a prob with the 2 x PWR fitting I have done BTW - i have a neelsons rad etc here if you are interested? This problem of heat seems strange - seems to effect one car and not another... However - why take the chance and spend all that extra money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 ? This problem of heat seems strange - seems to effect one car and not another... Depends greatly on how its been setup and ducted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Alex out of interest how do you rate the Greddy 2-row? Mike I have the Greddy 2 row running BPU upto 1.25 bar. My cars been on Dyno's a few times to check power and health, and has been checked with det cans on high boost (1.2-1.25 bar) both on the road and on Dyno and never had a problem. The two row also allows a bit of air to go directly to the sides of the rad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 greddy two row for sale on ebay £430 i think i'll try and find the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 here you go greddy intercooler http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRUST-GREDDY-INTERCOOLER-FMIC-KIT-SOARER-SUPRA-ARISTO_W0QQitemZ8071788050QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 craooy link i'll try again http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRUST-GREDDY-INTERCOOLER-FMIC-KIT-SOARER-SUPRA-ARISTO_W0QQitemZ8071788050QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 fekin ebay type in ebay search supra intercooler greddy it should show you 1 result hope this helps price is £499 which i thought was resonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 you mean this one Nige? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRUST-GREDDY-INTERCOOLER-FMIC-KIT-SOARER-SUPRA-ARISTO_W0QQitemZ8071788050QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Wtf Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 You know why that cocks up......its the funny FMIC description buggering up http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRUST-GREDDY-INTERCOOLER-FMIC-KIT-SOARER-SUPRA-ARISTO_W0QQitemZ8071788050QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 This is the one you were trying to link to: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8071788050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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