Supra Dino Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Well from that it looks like you're stock, so stock injectors are fine, funnily enough. guess that goes to show you know nothin of where your car comes from then sport! a standard mkiii makes 232 bhp at the fly not 311.9bhp why not learn some fact's before running your mouth ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 from reading your post's there is no wonder that the mkiii crowd are so unwelcome at any meet you guy's attend that is if those who posted went to the french meet a few nice people i met, s7eve and burna and Ian who was only able to keep up with my Lil slow mkiii I'll go up against any standard mkiv and make you eat humble pie. your right i don't think i will post on here anymore i see now why the mkiv crowd has such a bad snobbish sigma attached to it! guess that goes to show you know nothin of where your car comes from then sport! a standard mkiii makes 232 bhp at the fly not 311.9bhp why not learn some fact's before running your mouth ????Calm down love. Look mate, you posted an irrelevant dyno plot in the middle of Pig's thread about his car. You didn't say you have a MKIII and it doesn't say squat about your car in your Sig unless one actually clicks on the hyperlink (I didn't either). The MKIII folks I met on the France trip the other week were all really good guys and seemed to have a good sense of humour. Feel free to come back when you've developed a thicker skin, you need one on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Steeve Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 PIG it is amazing!! I ran with you in France 2 weeks ago and there wasn't a big difference between us. I cannot believe my car run 400BHP at the wheel! In the video there is another car BPU++(GREY, french car) with 390BHP at the wheel and he is larger behind. I run 1.3B with a S-AFCII +45% between 4500 to 7000RPM and I run 11.8:1 with stock 550cc injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Something is not right m8... Also really need to see the AFR readings too if poss If I might ask about the 550's maxing out at 0.8 BAR - sounds really low with a 'small' turbo? I thought that this set-up was recommended good for even stock jap injectors? maybe on a ebay t60-1 but not on a precision..., 440cc inj.. max bhp 440 approx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 maybe on a ebay t60-1 but not on a precision..., 440cc inj.. max bhp 440 approx Excuse my ignorance, but what are the differences between a T60-1 and a Precision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 maybe on a ebay t60-1 but not on a precision..., 440cc inj.. max bhp 440 approx So basically NEVER 440's on a T61 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Excuse my ignorance, but what are the differences between a T60-1 and a Precision? The ebay T60 is about the same size as a BL T57 and you could get away with the stock fuelling.. how ever a p trim T61 is actually a t61 and therefore needs more fuelling to achieve high boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 So basically NEVER 440's on a T61 then? you got it;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 The ebay T60 is about the same size as a BL T57 and you could get away with the stock fuelling.. how ever a p trim T61 is actually a t61 and therefore needs more fuelling to achieve high boost. I have looked on the Boost Logic site and they dont list a T57. Do you have the specs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I have looked on the Boost Logic site and they dont list a T57. Do you have the specs? All Precision T series turbos are in mm. T57=57mm compressor. T61=61mm compressor. The bigger the number the bigger the compressor and the turbine will also grow at a similar rate. The eBay T60-1, GReddy T78 and the Garrett GT35's etc...have nothing to do with their size in mm's in their name. As for BL suppliying the T57/58 they can, special order. I've seen it on their website, but maybe it's under a more generic area. Sound Performance do the SP57 or 58 which is essentially the same. There's no point running a turbo unless you can provide the fuelling to get it into the centre of it's efficiency island on the compressor map. On a BL61 that's 1.4bar....this is too much for 440's and pretty much locking open 550's. So the recommended injectors IMHO are 650cc-680cc because this gives you enough head room so that they arn't flat out...allows you to up the boost and run race fuel and is still only 33% bigger than 440's so are still easy enough to control with a piggyback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 No.. afraid not.. check with Mig or Terry or alex lmao... t57 is a t57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr keef Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 when you say ebay t60 are you on about the ssautochrome one?if not any links to the one ya on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 So am i right in saying that you could run up to 2.0 bar on 650cc with a T61? Will the stock enigine internals survive that sort of power?? And am i correct in saying that you will be begging your auto box to go pop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 So am i right in saying that you could run up to 2.0 bar on 650cc with a T61? Not on pump fuel. Race gas maybe, if it was mapped to suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Call it 1.6 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 1.6bar on the stock box will be fun, might last a few pulls on the m1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Sounds like im may have to leave it at 1.4 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Steeve Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 How many HP do you loose with the automatic gear box? 20% 382hp at the wheel could be 450hp to the engine? Best way to go is 650cc or more with piggy back or AEM EMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Steeve Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 general opinion seems to be between 23-25% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 I think terry goes with 27% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 It would depend on what dyno and where i belive. Charlie at Surrey does 23% where as Thor i belive do 25% (but don't quote me). If you had 382 at the rear you'd be seeing a shade under 500 at the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think terry goes with 27% eh 17% Manual 23% Auto but those are guesstimates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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