Paul Laing Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 What suspension should i go for in my UK TT? I was thinking just lowering springs? What do you lot think would be the best springs to go for, HKS? Any info would be great? Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing What suspension should i go for in my UK TT? I was thinking just lowering springs? What do you lot think would be the best springs to go for, HKS? Any info would be great? Cheers, Paul Just fitting lowering springs won't do your geometry much good... Chris Wilson does a full suspension set up that is very well regarded, do a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I'd stick to the stock UK Cart Springs, and add a set of Garage Mushi shocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I'd upgrade to the far superior J-Spec Bilsteins. Would be cheap, or go for a CW setup, not so cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I had the CW setup on my UK for two days before Toyota stuffed it and ......you know the story. I was very impressed, gone was all that body roll and not at the sacrifice of anything, still great on the M-way for those long trips. Sharp fast roundabouts were a joy.........those were the days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I've had Chris Wilsons suspension on my car for a couple of years now and it's absolutely superb, simply put the best money I've spent on my car to date. Well worth spending the extra and getting it done properly rather than wasting money on a set of springs and ruining the handling&ride of the car. The power is put down soooo much better, nice firm but NOT harsh ride, no body roll, feels razor sharp around tight bends, squats down superbly on long sweeping straights, feels glued to the road at 180mph and it reduces the ride height nicely without making speed bumps too much of a pain. Combined with a set off good tyres (Bridgestone SO3's for example) your couldn't ask for more. As you can tell I like it...a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Nick could I ask what you had pre the chris wilson stuff, was it the standard setup or a different aftermarket one? If it was the standard setup what did you think of it in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Mine came with an HKS lowering kit on it already, lower by about 30mm. Not ridden in a standard uk, but this isn't bad, ride wise. Sure, it's bumpy around town, but feels good on the open road. Though given the choice, I'd probably go for something more complete if I were doing it myself. Seb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Scooter - Suspension was completely standard and the car had done around 15000 miles. It was pretty good, definitely better than my previous Supra (Aerotop). My only real gripe was the "nose up" stance the car had but then I'd never driven a Supra with aftermarket suspension. I then had the engine mods done (both cats out, FMIC etc) and the back end became very lively. The CW setup's transformed the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 How much is the CW setup and what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Consists of a set of Bilstein shocks and custom progressive springs, fitted with a proper geometry setup. From memory the price is 1200quid all in, but best to check with Chris. There's a few threads on ChrisW's suspension, have a look with the search for more info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 If I remeber rightly (after having had it fitted to mine) it's re-valved konis with custom springs, and as nick says it really is the dogs. Check out my reviev ( search time ) for a low down on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 I've got the Koni's too but they're no longer available so he uses Bilsteins now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 CW switched from Konis to Bilsteins as he found out that the konis are not made anymore when he tried to order them for me (Jul 03) so, he now goes with the bilstein's. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith C Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Are the bilsteins the same as the stock J-spec ones? How does it compare to the J-spec Bilstein/Eibach combo I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nick, quick question, I thought from you signature you had some trick Aussie " Bathurst Racing" Suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 I have JIC FLA-2 coilovers all round on mine, and it'a a different world. Fully height adjustable, lighter than stock, pillow ball mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by Keith C Are the bilsteins the same as the stock J-spec ones? How does it compare to the J-spec Bilstein/Eibach combo I have? I would also like to know this as I have the J-Spec Bilsteins on standard springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 you know when you say a full Geometry setup, what is this? I thought the shocks were fixed in place with just 2 bolts, top and bottom? What needs setting up??? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Paul - See here http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/lance_alignment/index.html Keith - I'm not sure what Bilstein's are on the J-spec but, Chris get's his re-valved with his set-up so, will be a different ride again even if they are the same base unit AFAIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Why do you need to adjust the camber when fitting shocks? Isn't that just something to do with the wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 If you lower your supra and don't change the camber, castor and toe settings the tyres will wear unevenly and the handling will be affected. You cannot just put shorter springs on and expect it to handle as well as a fully geometry checked system, everything is linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing Why do you need to adjust the camber when fitting shocks? Isn't that just something to do with the wheels? My current kit uses custom springs and re valved European made Bilsteins, and as it lowers the car a little the geometry needs re setting. I use settings I have devised to give reasonable tyre wear on the road with good grip and progressive handling. If you want something more track orientated I can oblige, but ride and tyre wear on the road will be seriously compromised. The kits are 1200 fitted and set up, no VAT to pay. The only extra would be if any suspension bolts were totally seized and needed replacing. I am (hopefully justifiably) proud of this kit, which took considerable development. So far everyone that has used it has been flattering in their praise. It's not cheap, but as a single decent shock absorber alone for a race car is now around the 700 quid mark, nor is it expensive. Other kits such as the Whiteline one, have had less than glowing write ups from end users. Finally, I may be presuaded to offer adjustable spring platforms to reset ride heights, but to be frank I don't believe they are more than a pub bartering tool fo most users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Originally posted by Chris Wilson If you want something more track orientated I can oblige, but ride and tyre wear on the road will be seriously compromised. Chris, How serious is seriously, for someone wanting to do alot of trackdays but drives 90 miles a day to work what setup would be better? Whats involved in swapping between settings? Is there a price difference? Kind Regards Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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