JohnK Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Are traders legally obliged to charge VAT on second hand parts? I notice that some traders add VAT and some dont. Is it just a way to make more profit or should all traders add VAT to second hand parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 If you're you're paying the business then yes. If you're paying the guy that runs the business for something then no. I'm sure if you were charged VAT on an item from a trader that doesn't charge VAT... you'd be paying MORE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Are traders legally obliged to charge VAT on second hand parts? I notice that some traders add VAT and some dont. Is it just a way to make more profit or should all traders add VAT to second hand parts? only if there vat registered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 only if there vat registered Yup. Although you will get dodgy traders who will add 17.5% even though they are not VAT registered, to keep for themselves. If you are charged VAT, the invoice must have a VAT number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If you are in the UK and ordering parts officially from the company then vat must be charged at 17.5% if the trader is VAT registered. If you are in the states then VAT is still charged from a registered trader but at 0% All invoices must display a valid vat number (and make sure you check it). If you pay your funds to the traders company then you should pay VAT, this is not an increase in profit as the trader is simply collecting tax for customs and excise and will need to forward those funds on to HMC&E If you think that a trader has incorrectly charged/not charged VAT then ask for a full invoice and receipt on that basis, if the results are incorrect then forward to HM Customs and Excise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jaima Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Surely Second Hand Parts/use parts have already been subject to vat when the part(s) were sold when new, if so, then HM Customs are ripping ppl off, as well as the dodgy dealers, if you are being charged vat on a use part ask for a reciept for your own vat as you intend to claim it back with your tax returns, if the dishonest ones make, say, five grand per week in sales then they will make £875.00 p/w from the Mugs that they have just ripped off. If they are reported to HM Customs then the powers that be will go right through all of thier books going back years = a heavy fine and possible time in the tin pale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 You pay VAT on all income (well except take-away cold foods etc) and reclaim back the VAT spent on goods Simple as that - and as a ltd company you have to submit audited accounts to the inland revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I have no idea who these Inland Revenue and HM Customs & Excise people are, they don't exist!!! Its HM Revenue and Customs!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 And lovely people they are too.... Actually I have to say that the dealing I have had with them have always been really excellent Very hapy to admit down the pub at lunch etc etc - almost human in fact LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Depends on how the transaction is done I would have thought, and if they were deemed the traders private goods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Surely Second Hand Parts/use parts have already been subject to vat when the part(s) were sold when new, Yeah...how does that work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Depends on how the transaction is done I would have thought, and if they were deemed the traders private goods Exactly Terry, echos what I was saying up the list. You can't expect favours on pricing on one hand having discounted second hand products and then complain you've not had a VAT invoice! Fine, if you insist on a VAT invoice for everything - then expect to have the price increased accordingly as the trader has to put it through the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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