peter richards Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 days this week ive waited in and the builders havnt turned up , when ive phoned I get a crap excuse ,.wankers . if they cant come then why not phone and say I hate poor communication:( pm on its way to jp again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I'd be looking for some one else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 all these dunk were separate looking for quotes to sort the front of my driveway out , they all have no job to small on the vans but obviousl that's not the case , probably end up doing it myself but digging isn't good with my back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 same happened year before last wanted decking removed and new put down around my conservatory , samr shit either a huge price or they didn't turn up . in the end I did it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Never use a trade that hasn't been recommended by someone you know ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Yep, my family has used several different builders over the years and they all seem to be the same. Would love to be proved wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger E.N Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I can build anything so am willing to help. All I need is a personal break down of your finances and what you spend your money on; basically any internal information I don't really need so I can strike a deal with you. P.s I can also clean cars better than you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 I'm a qualified time served pipe fabricator in my past life prior to my back injury . so accuracy was and is the main point of my job . kind of took that attitude into my detailing . so whether these guys pick up on that when I'm on the phone to them I don't know , and think sod that hes to fussy , because basically I know what I want and have drawn it up with all the measurements. kind of done that bit for them . but due to my back I just cant dig and move the material , otherwise id do it myself . plus its not a big job probably two days if that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 I can build anything so am willing to help. All I need is a personal break down of your finances and what you spend your money on; basically any internal information I don't really need so I can strike a deal with you. P.s I can also clean cars better than you can good I need someone to wash the underside of the cars for me lol, you lie on the floor I snowfoam you then you roll around under the car , good rinse job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 All trades seem to be the same now, moved into a new build in August and I've asked the landscape guys for a fencing quote, sparky for some more downlights, plumber for additional outside tap / water softener. NONE of them get back to me, asked months back and nothing. Might have something to do with getting reputation for knowing what I'm on about, not a bad quality build by todays standards but still managed to create a long list of snagging on some major items. Not been too 'fussy' but in their view they are either giving me a wide berth or just don't need the money/lazy b*stards ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 jobs are to small mate like mine , all they want is big money jobs , not being funny but one guy last week a polish gentleman , he didn't even come back lol - - - Updated - - - so even the poles now are being pickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 I think ill see if I can find someone to do the digging , not a lot theres no turf there just buff stones probably 3 to 4 inches down , take a few hours to dig out then the sub base ready to go in , have to higher a compactor and a mixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 if you want a job done properly do it your self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I think you will find its the same with bigger jobs too , I'm restoring an old (1824) building close to where you are , big problems getting builders who know what they are doing , lime motor and plaster work , stonework , etc , let alone turn up . After about a year , it seems DIY is the only way forward , even the electrical instal is problematic , I'm fitting a modern DALI lighting system , but it seems that no "electricians " have a scooby do about modern lighting systems , I'm having to explain how it works and should be wired , but I can't sign it off that's got be done by electrician who does not know how it all works - go figure Render / insulation I'm using Bauwer light , a modern insulation system , but plasterers know nothing about it , I'm having to explain .. So I've had electricians , plasterers, carpenters , all who don't know their own trades , now followed up by heating engineers , structural engineers and architects who also don't know their trades - it's the modern way ..... Provide poor skills levels at outrageous prices if you can be bothered to turn up at all ...... I'm sure there are quality builders about , it's just they are massively outnumbered and you don't know who they are ,everyone has a mobile phone , builders have special phones with no date or clock on them and they only accept incoming calls , sometimes -lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Oh yeah, I've caught Building Control out too, building plans (and my experience) says that Intumescent sealer is required around the edge of the garage plasterboard ceiling to maintain it's fire rating. There was none, I got the Building Control guy back to check and he agreed, when asked how he could sign off the build he just said he 'must have missed it' and doesn't see every stage of the build ?? Why have Building Control then eh ? Peter, my thoughts are that most of the Trades on site are not at the top of their game, it's all price work and they get away with 'mistakes' or not knowing. Doing stuff in bulk on a new build with easy access to put services in is a different ball game to doing an individual job where neatness and a tidy/proper job is crucial. Also the Great British public are to blame, many are generally less knowledgable than they were years ago, many on this new estate wouldn't know a good job if it smacked them in the face and even if you highlight mistakes they are scared to complain or not bothered, more interested in sorting out their crappy garden solar lights I can do most of this myself and make a better job of it in most cases but it takes me longer as I have to research materials and methods in some cases, it's something I do enjoy but I just wish there were some decent reasonably priced builders around this area to take the load off me a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 agree mate ill do some more research after the weekend, then look to see the quantities ill need I know how many blocks ill need I worked that out , but I think theres two sub base materials to get then sand and cement, but I can get that in small amounts if need be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Aggregates in smaller quantity aint so bad, one tonne bags delivered next to the area and slice open with a stanley knife. What about hiring a mini digger for a day or isn't it a big enough area to warrant one? Last time I looked they were about £90 a day to hire and easy to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdale Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I think ill see if I can find someone to do the digging I've often said it would be a good idea to have a website purely for the advertising of unskilled work, labouring etc. Offered and wanted sections. You go on there and place an ad along the lines of "labourer needed for digging driveway, 1-2days work next week, £XX/per day, lunch and biscuits included" anyone who wants it can then respond. All cash in hand. You get stuff done, someone gets quick easy money. I could do with the same for my garden. Need plenty of digging but don't want to pay for gardening/landscaping people when all I really need is a big eastern European bloke with a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Screw that shovelling lark, £250 gets me a man and the digger in B'ham for a day, a labourer with a shovel will want at least half that and you'll take a lot longer if you have a decent area to clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger E.N Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 good I need someone to wash the underside of the cars for me lol, you lie on the floor I snowfoam you then you roll around under the car , good rinse job done As I'm too tight to pay for water this seams a good way to get a free seasonal bath in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 only a small area think of a triangle 4m x10m, theres small stones there atm , so id say itll be removed and dug out in a few hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Stand outside the job centre with flyers ? I'm sure some young lad would be up for a bit of cash in hand, I dug out footings for a garage when I was a youngster for a bloke round the corner. Hard work but cash in hand and plenty of tea and bacon sarnies :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 sort something out as the builders don't want to know .ill get some before and after pics lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 We came close to buying a rundown shack in the Highlands but when we realised that the local guys could usually turn a 5-day job into 12-months then we thought twice - and walked away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 sounds about right , ive made a start had 3 small bushes to remove so I managed to get them out today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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