BlackWatch66 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Right, feel a little silly, I got pulled over on saturday night, whilst on a date by some friendly police who told me that their system showed the supe had NO MOT, I was then issued with a 'producer' to show my Drivers liscence, MOT cert, and Insurance documents at the local police station. I returned home, and checked my MOT certificate, to find it had expired last weekend (7 days exactly). The reason I didn't remember this is that I have just moved house, and it was the last thing on my mind. I will have the supe tested early this week and return to produce all relevant documents at the police station, including new MOT certificate. So my question is if the police are likely to be leniant if I show that I have gone to get a new MOT straight away to rectify this and the fact I have just moved house, or if not, what is the likely outcome!! If anyone has been in this situation then I would appreciate your input ! Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I think that a letter of mitigation to the Police may help your cause. When you produce the new MOT they will still do you for failing to provide a valid certificate at the time of the offence. I am not sure what the fines are for having no MOT these days. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I know someone that did exactly that, was a year or so now, He got an mot and went in to own up. They said that he would be reported for the offence and may/may not hear back. He hasn't heard anything since. I'm not sure on what the situation would be now as they seem to have set fines/points in place for some offences so you may just get hit with one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Bite the bullet and pay the £40-$60 pound fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Most definitely own up to it. It's an easy mistake to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrikbrunt Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I was caught in the very same situation a few years ago, I reported to the police station and just owned up to the fact that when stopped I didnt have a valid MOT. They said I would either receive a letter saying I had been reported for the offence of driving without an MOT, or, would hear nothing. Luckily for me it was the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 You'll be fine, just explain what happened, I know plenty of people who have got away with the same situation. I think you're allowed 10 days after the expiry date too?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWatch66 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Is it just a fine, or am I likely to get points as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I'm pretty sure no MOT is not a points offence, just a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Is it just a fine, or am I likely to get points as well? I'm pretty sure no MOT is not a points offence, just a fine. I am not up to date with this side of things any more but I doubt that points are applicable....!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I think you're allowed 10 days after the expiry date too?? I'm sure you're not 'allowed' any days at all, unless you're driving to or from a place where the MOT/repair is being carried out. Most coppers generally file the paperwork dependant on how much of a clown you appear to them, so if you're a reasonable guy who owns up and isn't obviously pulling a fast one they're likely to let you off. My mate's told me 9 times out of 10 he doesn't even check if the person he pulled has produced (as it's up to the officer to check up on it and do the relevant paperwork). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Jesus. The fine is cheaper than an MOT (at some places). * ponders * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Interesting discussion on the Vauxhall forums. http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/off-topic-discussions/123592-no-mot-penalty.html Technically you could get done for No Insurance and 10 points. I would own up and be very nice to those boys in blue..... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Having no MOT is not an endorseable offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Having no MOT is not an endorseable offence. I think the question is whether it invalidates your insurance (and tax?) to knowingly drive without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 What's tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 What's tax? Road tax? In order to have legal private insurance you must have a road legal car (Clearly not for trackday insurance etc), same goes for roadtax. If the police want to press for no insurance they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Take the old and new MOT certs with you and be nice, explaining that you had just missed it as you have just moved house and apologise, hopefully they wont take it any further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comorin219 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Think the fine can be upto £1K no mot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Think the fine can be upto £1K no mot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Considering the state of public finances in Britain they'll probably hit you with a big fine:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWatch66 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Considering the state of public finances in Britain they'll probably hit you with a big fine:p LOL wouldn't put it past them Cheers for all of your responses guys ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 easy mistake to make . i drove my work van around for over a month with no tax and didnt even realise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I find it hard to believe that an offence against Customs and Excise would affect your public liability insurance for a car. MOT I can swallow, they could claim the car was un-roadworthy, but not having no tax. Can anyone cite a case of insurance withdrawal due to just having no road fund licence in force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBDJ Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 It's been discussed at length on other forums and insurance people confirmed that whilst they can wriggle out of paying everything they will still be liable for 3rd party payment in the event of no RFL and/or no MOT. There is a lot of scaremongering about it, but it appears to actually be very difficult for an insurance company to negate their 3rd party commitments. As long as the insurance company are still covering 3rd party responsibility then you obviously have insurance and cannot be prosecuted for not having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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