far Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Government Scheme There’s a lucrative government scheme that pays c.£800 cashback on all the energy solar panels generate. Normally the homeowner grabs this but, in return for the free solar panels, Isis (company offering the panels) takes this cashback. Not quite sure how the house would look with all them panels on it but if you live out in the sticks with a relatively large garden and outbuildings this could be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I found a very poorly written A4 page advert in my letter box when a few weeks back from a company offering this sort of service; Isis rings a bell. It seemed dodgy at the time, but there it is on Moneysaving. Altough there is a Warning! This isn't fully tried and tested note. I won't be the first person on the band wagon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 I won't be the first person on the band wagon though. Yeah - I doubt I will do it either, especially considering you cant take them off for 25 years and the new homeowner needs to take over the contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I think I'll wait until we move into somewhere more permanent. I don't have a south facing roof at the moment anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Yeah - I doubt I will do it either, especially considering you cant take them off for 25 years and the new homeowner needs to take over the contract! I wonder what would happen if you needed to have the roof replaced within that 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 It's interesting that all unused energy gets fed into the grid. I'd don't see why it can't be changed to chemical energy (a battery bank), or used to heat up water in a sort of old style hot water tank. I mean the idea of a communal solar energy grid is rather forward thinking and very 'green', but on a selfish note ^^. Perhaps it's a stipulation in order to be granted what seems like a 'something for nothing' deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 It's interesting that all unused energy gets fed into the grid. I'd don't see why it can't be changed to chemical energy (a battery bank), or used to heat up water in a sort of old style hot water tank. It's pretty wasteful if you don't actually need the energy at that time though. I'd rather sell off my surplus to the grid and make some money whilst I'm not using it! Obviously this scheme is for those like me who can't afford the initial outlay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 It's pretty wasteful if you don't actually need the energy at that time though. I'd rather sell off my surplus to the grid and make some money whilst I'm not using it! Obviously this scheme is for those like me who can't afford the initial outlay though. The point is it goes to the grid free of charge (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Welllllllllllllllllll Lots of talk around about this, No one is quite sure what is happening regarding grants for solar. Cavity wall and loft work is now funded by grants (100%-50%) which is what i do. Been alot of talk about us fitting solar panels as part of these grants however nothing had been drawn up. I will be getting into it as soon as the grant system is sorted. The same with soild wall, which as it stands costs around 10k to fit but offers a £800 grant. Isis are by all accounts fitting solar panels for free, THEY OWN THE PANELS NOT YOU. They make the money by selling the power back to the grid. So in affect you will save money but they will make it. The scheme im hearing about will see the customer get the money from the extra power sold back to the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 The point is it goes to the grid free of charge (I think). Yeah it goes to the grid 'free' via Isis who act as the 'broker' between the homeowner and the grid, the homeowner doesnt make a penny on it, Isis do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Yeah it goes to the grid 'free' via Isis who act as the 'broker' between the homeowner and the grid, the homeowner doesnt make a penny on it, Isis do Over 20 years thats alot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 The point is it goes to the grid free of charge (I think). On this particular scheme yes, but generally when you have a panel fitted you sell your unused back to the grid, so it's not worth devising a storage system or anything like that. In this particular scheme Isis are getting back the £12K you should have paid them for fitting it, by claiming all the money you would have made selling it to the grid (plus a payment from the government it seems). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Interesting idea, I've thought for a while with all the fuss the government is making about carbon footprint more should be done to promote solar and wind power. We've looked at various options over the years and it has always been cost prohibitive. I was recently flying around Europe, one of the countries - Germany I think, on the approach to the city all the surrounding houses in the countryside had their entire roofs covered in solar panels. Hundreds of houses and factory units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 They make the money by selling the power back to the grid. So in affect you will save money but they will make it That's it then, that's explained to me how Isis seem to be able to do it. Cheers, Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 If everyone had one it would absorb so much energy from the sun it would negate global warming and we could all start driving our cars as we want again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 If everyone had one it would absorb so much energy from the sun it would negate global warming and we could all start driving our cars as we want again. Is that a serious statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Nothing is free..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Nothing is free..... But some things are better value than others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Is that a serious statement? Why wouldn't it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 If everyone had one it would absorb so much energy from the sun it would negate global warming and we could all start driving our cars as we want again. Can you explain this please? How can it negate global warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Why wouldn't it be? One of the fundamental laws of physics is that energy is not created nor destroyed. Once the energy from the sun has found its way to earth and to your solar panel, it’s here to stay until it leaves through the atmosphere and into space. Global warming is caused by carbon dioxide acting as a blanket keeping that energy (heat) in. So it make no difference if the energy is transferred to electricity, it’ still gets caught up on earth. Heavy use of solar panels may reduce the dependence on tradition power stations though, which would reduce carbon emissions. But soaking up the energy and negating global warming?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 We need Martini's input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 We need Martini's input Surely this is pretty fundemental, unless I'm missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Surely this is pretty fundemental, unless I'm missing something? We both must be, as Trev seems to know something we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 You can't create or destroy energy but you can change it, and changing it from the suns rays (heat radiation) into electricity (electromagnetic) means it's not heating up the planet any more, it's running your fridge and your toaster. There will be a net loss of heat on the planet surface, and it could be a significant loss if EVERY single building in the world was absorbing energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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