Geo Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Seen a Supra today at the Show at Louden Castle, and the Spec said 600bhp 450ft/lbs is that possible?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 ide say so.. usually the higher the Hp on these cars the torque seems to drop off a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I won't seem that fast then with 450lbs/ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=129455&highlight=ECU+list Looking at this list supradibbs had 598BHP and 447ft lbs, but most 600+ cars are in the mid 500 ft lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 450 tq seems indeed a bit low. To get 600 bhp, one has to run a nice tubbie with moderate boost, which should bring closer or above 500 torque I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) to get 600bhp there was no mention of cams at all?? and the tubbi used was a Gt35 if memory serves me right? didnt think the stock cams could handle so much power? Edited June 20, 2010 by Geo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Yeah its possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Didn't JP get 630 on his old T67 on stock cams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Its possible id say on a smaller turbo pushed hard, iirc Gaz1 had 614bhp and 490ftlb on a T67 Didn't JP get 630 on his old T67 on stock cams? Yup, that was stock cams at 1.8bar on a old style T67 dbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 So whats the factor on Torque Figures then?? as in why would it be low?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 600hp on the gt35r without cams seems high?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 600hp on the gt35r without cams seems high?! Its possible imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 You could get 1 car that makes 450 ftlbs @ 5000 rpm & one car that makes the exact same torque only higher in the rpm range, say 6000 rpm. So car 1 has 428 bhp & car 2 has 514bhp, nearly 90bhp difference. One that makes 450ftlbs @ 7000 rpm is 600bhp. So depending on setup (turbo, cams etc) it's not too strange to have those figures, it's all about where the car makes it's torque in the rpm range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 so what car would be better performance wise?? car1 -600bhp - 450ft/lbs car2 -530bhp - 500ft/lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 so what car would be better performance wise?? car1 -600bhp - 450ft/lbs car2 -530bhp - 500ft/lbs Not much in it, 600bhp would just have it imo, once in the high revs the small loss in torque wont matter so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Power is a product of torque, power only comes into play in the higher revs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Power is a product of torque, power only comes into play in the higher revs When im tearing through the gearbox my revs dont drop below 6200rpm on gear changes, well past where my torque has dropped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I had some boring diatribe featuring maths and stuff to post but Im not gonna bother lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragoose Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 that amount of torque smaller or not is immense lol,perfect for a street set up isnt it...anything more than that and your a drag racer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 The higher rpms allow you to gear down. As an example, imagine 2 cars both make the same torque, one at roughly 1500rpm higher than the other. They are side by side, obviously one car needs to be in say 3rd gear & 1 in 4th gear to maintain the same speed but keep each in it's peak torque area. They both put their foot down, the one in 3rd gear will pull away faster (obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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