Gaz Walker Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Steve, I'd do it if you got a WB02... without a dyno I don't want to take the risk, I'm sure you understand! Regards, Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Got ya mate, much appreciated. Anyone got a price on these? Can see this being another good few hundred pound more fookin expensive. I'm growing to hate Supras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Sorry to hear it m8 - but I have an AEM in stock now http://miami-gt.com/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/26/products_id/140?osCsid=a3be51b5ea859f6039dec05927518dec Can send it up to Gaz for you if you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Cheers matie. Nice to see what it actually does lol I'll get back to you about it. It may be cheaper to drive to Thor but I'm looking into that. Thanks again matie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesC Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Place called Andy Urwins. Andy Irwin's eh... I'll PM you Gaz. I used to use Andy urwin quite a bit but havent been too impressed the last couple of times i used him, so now i dont. Is there a good story to hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 As a side note he charged £70 to fit 650 injectors. Seemed ok to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 You'll need to back the 650's off quite a lot...IanC's gotten his head round it (as it's not a blanket % change across the range) might be worth PM'ing him for some rough settings. Is the SAFC actually fitted? If it's not I wouldn't try to drive it with the 650's in as it will just flood the engine? If it is fitted I'd knock all the fueling back by 25% across the range to limp it to a tuner. EDIT - Think the SAFC has a low throttle and hi throttle value...make the low -25% and the high -35%....but again don't drive it in anger without getting it mapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Yep it's fitted. Sadly "knock the fueling back by 25%" means nothing to me Any advice how to do it? I need the bloody thing for work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Do you have an instruction book? Have you set the low and high throttle? I'd book a taxi for tomorrow it's not going to be a 5min fix if you're not sure what you are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 oh shite yeah I have an instruction book. I now how to set hi and low throttle but don't know what to set it to lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 PM'd with my old settings and a few notes mate My settings DO NOT make it a fully mapped car, I can't emphasise that enough. It may run way better than now but it could still be too rich by far or even worse (although I doubt it) be dangerously lean. Can't believe someone "in the trade" can't set up the most basic airflow controller on the market... That must speak volumes -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 p.s. would it make any difference that my turbo timer tells me my A/F ratio? No, not if it is still displays the output of the standard narrowband sensor. I even had a wideband on the Calibra FFS, it really is not far-fetched. Most of the 'mods' people do on these cars I find useless and sometimes even counter-productive. You know me. But a WideBand gauge/controller like the AEM is no gimmick. Every tuned turbo should have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 Well the S-AFCII wasn't up to the job. Hats off to Thor for everything and I'll be back shortly waving my emanage high! You were right... the S-AFCII just couldn't get rid of the petrol and just bogged down. After fixing various problems it came out at a sad 370rhhp at 1.2Bar. Will the emanage improve this at all or will it only sort out my "bogging down" at 4krpm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 If it's bogging down, and the AFC can't get rid of enough fuel, the E-manage should give you both cleaner revving and more power. TBH, I don't think 370 is bad for an auto. Remember they loose a fair bit of power through the transmission. Probably may be able to get another 20 or so once it's all running well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 Cheers mate. Yeah 370 isn't too bad. My goal is 500 at the fly (yes I know it's a pub figure but I love the pub!). What would be recommended to get towards that figure? Cams and gears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 And a bit of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 What's Richy S running then? He pulled 473.6hp on Envy Hybrids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 A 6sp manual to start with, with lower losses. And bear in mind the flywheel figure is only a guestimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 Was 473 at the flywheel? Doubt it was. I know your gonna get more of a loss from the auto but comparing it to the others on 'ere (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=29073&highlight=envy+hybrids) I'm having the piss taking out of me by stock turbos, exhaust and de-cats. Can anyone advise :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Well, I really don't want to get into a dyno figure debate, but if 473 was at the wheels with stock based turbo's, that means he's somewhere near 580 @ the flywheel. - Sorry, can't see it's possible. Don't chase big numbers. You'll only end up either unhappy or getting false dyno figures to please other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 After fixing various problems it came out at a sad 370rhhp at 1.2Bar. Will the emanage improve this at all or will it only sort out my "bogging down" at 4krpm? I think if you look at the list on Monkeymarks post you are well up there - sorry but I am with Matt on this one THOR Top Dyno Numbers For Stock/Hybrid Turbos at the hubs 01. 473.6 hp / 451.7 ft/lb Richie S (TT 6) JAP (Envy Hybrids) 02. 402.9 hp / 376.8 ft/lb @ 1.3 Bar Boost Paul E (TT auto) JAP (Miami-GT Hybrids) 03. 392.7 hp / 396.3 ft/lb Chris B (TT auto) UK 04. 382.9 hp / 419.9 ft/lb @ 1.35 Bar Boost Paul L (TT 6) UK 05. 380.2 hp / 378.3 ft/lb @ 1.2 Bar Boost Mcanny (TT auto) UK DYNO graph1 DYNO graph2 06. 365.0 hp / 384.0 ft/lb @ 1.2 Bar Boost Lovatt (TT auto) JAP 07. 363.6 hp / 365 ft/lb @ 1.1 Bar Boost tbourner (TT 6) JAP DYNO graph 08. 360.1 hp / 345.8 ft/lb @ 1.1 Bar Boost Chase (TT auto) JAP DYNO graph 09. 344.7 hp / 354 ft/lb @ 1.2 Bar Boost Slick (Steve) (TT auto) UK 10. 335.8 hp / 357.3 ft/lb @ 1.01 Bar Boost Bill Prawn (TT auto) JAP DYNO graph 11. 316.4 hp / 303.9 ft/lb @ 0.8 Bar Boost Ian R (TT auto) JAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 4, 2005 Author Share Posted July 4, 2005 Ok cheers guys. Like I say it's only a pub figure I was looking for anyway. I know what the car can do and that's what matters BUT... I do like to be able to put a high number to it as well I'll scan the graphs in later so you can see the drop mid revs. Made 355lb torque as well btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 What's the spec on these 'hybrid' turbos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 4, 2005 Author Share Posted July 4, 2005 Pass. Envy doesn't release any specs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 If you're after pub figures, then just make up some and get over with it. Why would you need to pay a dyno operator to add correction factors, when you can do the arithmetic yourself. Photoshop a dynograph, and you've got proof too. Far fetched you think? "500+" figures sound nice and a few people quote them, but not all can do elevens to back them up, lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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