Luxluc Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 indeed - the left one seems to have new internals. Yeah ... probably running hybrid twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is there a Thread on the N/A to t conversions, i've had a look but cant find one. Sounds interesting The NA-T forum is a good source for info regarding conversions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) The NA-T forum is a good source for info regarding conversions. Can anyone link me, i've searched and searched but i cant find it *Insert witty comment from another member mocking my uselessness with the Search tool.* Edit: Found bits and pieces in the end, doesnt seem worth it. Will keep saving for a TT Edited October 24, 2009 by SupraDan24 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Found bits and pieces in the end, doesnt seem worth it. Will keep saving for a TT It isn't mate. Price Vs power gain for a NA-TT is really low. Better off saving to go TT and put any extra cash towards BPU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I'll be honest i dont think is be willing to pay around £10,000,i'd rather put that 2wards my next car. Well i have bit my tongue long enough and listened to the usuall 10k trotted out by people who still have a TT , i dont think anyone on this thread has mentioned the cost really depends on what kind of power you want, 500hp is very easily achieved at way way under the figures bandied about however 600hp + is going to be up in the 10k region. There are items you really need to spend good money on such as the turbo (around 1k for a 500-550hp) but there are others where you can save, is a £1500 tubular manifold with the potential to make 800+ hp really necesary, the answer is no if you dont intend going over 600hp and it really makes me laugh when people spend this kind of money then only run 550hp when a £300 cast manifold would have given them a torque curve to die for (yes i know "future proofing" ). Do you need the latest whizz bang ECU with a total cost of around 2k to run 500hp, the answer again is no, at this power level your still using most of the silky smooth stock ecu and a piggy back is more than adequate. Granted you will need to ensure all your ancillaries are in good nic (including rad, brakes, suspension, tyres). The other big saving could be labour, if you know which end of a spanner is which fitting a single turbo system really isn't rocket science , and there is more than enough info on this forum to help out the "garden shed" mechanic. So my point is it all depends what power you want and believe me 500- 550hp is pretty damm quick and quicker than 99% of cars on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 and believe me 500- 550hp is pretty damm quick and quicker than 99% of cars on the road. its a license loser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 There is no way I would run a single turbo on the stock ECU. Its just all wrong IMO. Enlighten me!!!! It hasnt gone bang yet and the car has not been driven particularly easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Well i have bit my tongue long enough and listened to the usuall 10k trotted out by people who still have a TT , i dont think anyone on this thread has mentioned the cost really depends on what kind of power you want, 500hp is very easily achieved at way way under the figures bandied about however 600hp + is going to be up in the 10k region. There are items you really need to spend good money on such as the turbo (around 1k for a 500-550hp) but there are others where you can save, is a £1500 tubular manifold with the potential to make 800+ hp really necesary, the answer is no if you dont intend going over 600hp and it really makes me laugh when people spend this kind of money then only run 550hp when a £300 cast manifold would have given them a torque curve to die for (yes i know "future proofing" ). Do you need the latest whizz bang ECU with a total cost of around 2k to run 500hp, the answer again is no, at this power level your still using most of the silky smooth stock ecu and a piggy back is more than adequate. Granted you will need to ensure all your ancillaries are in good nic (including rad, brakes, suspension, tyres). The other big saving could be labour, if you know which end of a spanner is which fitting a single turbo system really isn't rocket science , and there is more than enough info on this forum to help out the "garden shed" mechanic. So my point is it all depends what power you want and believe me 500- 550hp is pretty damm quick and quicker than 99% of cars on the road. I've been summing up the costs for single turbo and I have to agree with you here. I budgeted for 4-5k with doing all the work myself except for the mapping (£500.) And yes the Cast log manifolds are a BARGAIN in comparison to the £1k+ tubular manifolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Enlighten me!!!! It hasnt gone bang yet and the car has not been driven particularly easily. Is it your daily driver Dude? If so if I come down one saturday any chance you could take me out in it? I'm quite interested in getting one after I have other essentials so wouldnt mind seeing hows she goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I think I'd like to go single. But I'd only really like to pay upto 4 grand tops to have it all supplied and fitted. Im only after 500ish bhp (limit of the autobox) Other thing that stops me is that my car has done 145k miles, and I worry that bolting a single on, would finish the engine off and ancilaries etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Id also be worried after shelling out all that money and my car wont do the 1/4 quicker than my stock car, running 0.9 bar boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Enlighten me!!!! It hasnt gone bang yet and the car has not been driven particularly easily. Ian explains it here much better than I could. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2535318&postcount=31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Id also be worried after shelling out all that money and my car wont do the 1/4 quicker than my stock car, running 0.9 bar boost Have you thought about going down the weight saving route? At bpu say 400bhp it works out at 260bhp/ton at a stock weight of 1520kg. Loose about 150kg (which is my goal) and it will be near 290bhp/ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Any ideas how you can shed 150kg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Well i have bit my tongue long enough and listened to the usuall 10k trotted out by people who still have a TT , i dont think anyone on this thread has mentioned the cost really depends on what kind of power you want, 500hp is very easily achieved at way way under the figures bandied about however 600hp + is going to be up in the 10k region. There are items you really need to spend good money on such as the turbo (around 1k for a 500-550hp) but there are others where you can save, is a £1500 tubular manifold with the potential to make 800+ hp really necesary, the answer is no if you dont intend going over 600hp and it really makes me laugh when people spend this kind of money then only run 550hp when a £300 cast manifold would have given them a torque curve to die for (yes i know "future proofing" ). Do you need the latest whizz bang ECU with a total cost of around 2k to run 500hp, the answer again is no, at this power level your still using most of the silky smooth stock ecu and a piggy back is more than adequate. Granted you will need to ensure all your ancillaries are in good nic (including rad, brakes, suspension, tyres). The other big saving could be labour, if you know which end of a spanner is which fitting a single turbo system really isn't rocket science , and there is more than enough info on this forum to help out the "garden shed" mechanic. So my point is it all depends what power you want and believe me 500- 550hp is pretty damm quick and quicker than 99% of cars on the road. Cracking post bud, quick question. I was planning on doing as much of the conversion as I can. The stumbling block came with the turbo i want (GT35r DBB) as it is water and oil cooled. If i ditch the tubby's and then bolt on the GT35r would i not need to tap new oil & water returns somewhere? I just feel like i would be a bit stuck, if i take it to a garage to get the holes tapped I would need to do it before the single was on there, so I would need to bung up the holes to drive the car back home. I can't really see any way around my problem unless I am missing something? Only reason I want the 2k ECU is because I want the solaris. Not looking to save there really as I was planning on getting it regardless of going single or not. I know its WAY more than I need, I just want it Might have just saved me a good few bob on the manifold though Single Necessity's: Tubby Kit - Approx £3.5K (Includes £1000 manifold) ECU - £300-£1000 Clutch - £400 Mapping - £500 Injectors - £400-£600 Walbro Fuel Pump - £100 Plugs - £80-£150 Safeguards: Water Pump (optional) - £123 Oil Pump (Optional) - £130 Fuel Filter - £30 Front & Rear Crank Seal (Optional) - £30 Belts - £200 Fluids - £150 Labour - £0 - £1.5k I've no doubt missed loads but it does add up. I can see where you could save yourself 1 or 2k but my build looks to be approx £8k, approx £7k in parts. Edited October 24, 2009 by Scott (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Any ideas how you can shed 150kg? Depends what you use the car for. If its a daily driver then its probably not recommended, but a few ideas that i can think of at the moment are... -Removal or rear windscreen wiper and motor -Removal of rear seats and seat belts -Removal of stock front seats and replaced with lighter ones -Removal of spare wheel, jack, tool kit. -Lighter battery (possibly relocate to the boot to improve weight distribution. -Lighter alloy wheels -Removal of cd player and speakers -Removal of A/C Pump (weighs a fair old bit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 -Removal of rear seats -Removal of spare wheel, jack, tool kit. I weighted the above when removing : 38 kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I weighted the above when removing : 38 kg Notice much of a difference just after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I doubt i'll go single anytime soon just because of the sheer amount of money and time involved. What are the advantages of having a Uk Spec over a J-Spec when going BPU (if i plan to run at 1.2bar)? At the moment i'm leaning towards a J-Spec just because of the money saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Notice much of a difference just after that? To be honest : not that much. 38 kg isn't really that much ... same as tank 3/4 full vs 1/4 full . But for someone who goes the extreme weight saving road, its like a good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Going single could be a damn sight cheaper if you buy everything second hand.... And I just happen to know where theres everything you could need for 500hp+++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Going single could be a damn sight cheaper if you buy everything second hand.... And I just happen to know where theres everything you could need for 500hp+++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Where does one buy a cast manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 You spotted that eh? :d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Where does one buy a cast manifold? IIRC some people have used this one. http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/view.phtml?f_cat=Manifolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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