AgtX80 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Well youre the one worried about rear wheel drive, if youre prone to driving into walls, the cheaper car would be a better option. Im sure that a supra with 225bhp on tap & a supra with 325bhp when the turbo has kicked you up the a$$ is a whole different experience that driving an NA wont prepare you for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 That’s a rolling start and you have one of those weird speedo's. You are an absolute idiot if you are basing your 0-60 times on videos like this. It shows nothing at all Get an accelerometer, do some proper runs on a runway, then people might take you seriously. Until then I LOL at you and your future posts I posted some real world data logs of a 6spd TT from stock, to BPU to single a while ago. See, i said something similar, but then got told off by Mike for having a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratm Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Oh dear, what have I done! Who'd have thought such a innocent question would result in this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradriver Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Can I ask a question what would win a race between a civic type r and a N/A supra? The civic type r is 0-60 in 6.6 secs at 197bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Well youre the one worried about rear wheel drive, if youre prone to driving into walls, the cheaper car would be a better option. Im sure that a supra with 225bhp on tap & a supra with 325bhp when the turbo has kicked you up the a$$ is a whole different experience that driving an NA wont prepare you for. Erm... When did I say I was prone to driving into walls lol. I just thought it would be wise to start with the lower powered version first, get used to the way the car handles and drives etc and when the time is right upgrade either the engine or the car to a single converted TT. I thought there was good logic in that personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Can I ask a question what would win a race between a civic type r and a N/A supra? The civic type r is 0-60 in 6.6 secs at 197bhp Civic Type R would have the Supra matey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dont think these kind of threads bode well for the site. Specially to newer members. Its almost bordering on bullying. As mentioned earlier can we just let this rest untill he proves people right, or wrong. Its been like that since forever, and would only be the same in a none internet based car club. Imagine turning up to a capri owners club and telling them you had a bone stock car that did 0-60 in 4 seconds and imagine the response considering the forum wants you to pay to use it (yeah theres a member pack....alegedly, wheres mine?), you have to treat the customers nicely. Did you tick the link to request the members pack? Im sure the club would prefer numpties to keep their money than turn a blind eye to their ramblings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgtX80 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sure whatever you do will suit you best mate. Spring & summer is the best time for RWD cars, go get one. I didnt tick any boxes, but who wouldnt want a pack thing?....whats in the pack?. If he says he beat a civic next... theres a million reasons why the civic lost, on paper youd never win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucky40 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The older civic type Rs were quoted as 6.8 to 60 and the newer ones 6.6 Sounds like it would be very even to 60 and then above that id like to think the NA would be faster as it has more power for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Actually the EP3 does 0 - 60 in 6.4 and allegedly the new spaceship FD2 is supposed to be the same due to having a drop more power and torque it also has different ratios in the gearbox to accommodate for the extra weight. Either way the EP3 only weighs 1200Kgs, when you compare that too the Supra 1600kgs that extra 25bhp really is not going to make up for it. Id love to stick up for the N/A crowd and boast all day long about them but honestly they don't stand a chance against most modern hatches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Id love to stick up for the N/A crowd and boast all day long about them but honestly they don't stand a chance against most modern hatches. I think thats the key part of this. The NA Supra isnt a hot hatch, its a refined and comfy GT car. Asking the NA 0-60 is as relevant as asking the Veyrons fuel economy or the Ariel atoms luggage capacity - just not what they were built for. End of the day, for not much money you can hold your own against lots of cars, just less cars than you can in a TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Can I ask a question what would win a race between a civic type r and a N/A supra? The civic type r is 0-60 in 6.6 secs at 197bhp Must be the supra as someone here has an N/A that does it in 5 secs Why did i buy a turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I think thats the key part of this. The NA Supra isnt a hot hatch, its a refined and comfy GT car. Asking the NA 0-60 is as relevant as asking the Veyrons fuel economy or the Ariel atoms luggage capacity - just not what they were built for. End of the day, for not much money you can hold your own against lots of cars, just less cars than you can in a TT Exactly, you get a lot of car for your money with an N/A it’s not a slow car by any means. Slow in my book is anything post 9 seconds to sixty, but it’s not designed to compete with things like Integra’s, Civic’s and such like, it’s more comparable to BMW’s and Merc’s in a certain sense. If you wanted to compare it to those cars you’d find it’s a bout middle class in terms of performance which is good considering it’s dry weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradriver Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 i had A feeling some of you would say the type r would be the winner lmao but iv raced them and beat them hands down so go on say it “that’s not possible” lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Anything is possible mate (circumstances, driver ability and so forth), remember you have more torque so 60mph + you would have a good chance at pulling past one, but from a dig there is no chance EP3's can run a 14 second quarters in stock form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DODGYDODDS Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 i had A feeling some of you would say the type r would be the winner lmao but iv raced them and beat them hands down so go on say it “that’s not possible” lol Dude been readin this thread, but have to step in here, if your n/a soop is pretty standard on power, you would not of beat him/her - all things equal, they prob got a bad start or cant drive lol:p i have had an ep3 and ek9 type r, [was vtec mad b4 the soop fever set in] having also driven, my mates n/a soop which has a filter and zaust, i can say hands down, it was slower. it's all about the weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 i had A feeling some of you would say the type r would be the winner lmao but iv raced them and beat them hands down so go on say it “that’s not possible” lol Since Dude went "away" I have been looking for someone like you... My new hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 anything's possible, a woman on top gear caned a van round the ring faster than a lot of guys in high performance cars, it's to do with the driver, the conditions, how well they know their car's ability, the road they're on etc etc. I beat a GT3 the other week, because he wasn't trying, doesn't mean I'm going to say my car's quicker than one.... Also think the age of the supra vs modern cars, which will probably be more in their peak then ours are.... Hot hatches weigh naff all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hot hatches weigh naff all.... They used too, there too heavy now though wouldn't you agree? For example the old school EK9 Type R (The Real Type R) only weighed in at 975Kgs, new cars today have got too many safety features etc the latest Civic Type R weighs 1267Kgs and stuff like Golf GTI's are topping 1400Kgs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgtX80 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 He may have actually beaten it, but not cause the Civic isnt up to the challenge. He might actually be good with this supra & the other guy might be useless with his Civic. Im assuming its a standing start in a straight line, hes not said where this took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradriver Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 it took Place on a road approaching a hill the road was clear we were doing about 30mph. I pulled out from behind him he started too pull away so I floored it and slowly passed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucky40 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Maybe you just have a very special NA, Im sure the rest of us are talking about all the other NAs that toyota have made when making comparisons. If yours happens to be the faster than everyone elses by a considerable margain then I apologize for doubting you! As a few others have said would be nice to see your NA in action and maybe you can challenge for the fastest NA award at the next suprapod day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMagic Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 it took Place on a road approaching a hill the road was clear we were doing about 30mph. I pulled out from behind him he started too pull away so I floored it and slowly passed him. Sounds feasible to be honest, but it would be a different ball game from a standing start (dig). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sounds feasible to be honest, but it would be a different ball game from a standing start (dig). Based on your responses to this thread, you seem really sensible for a 'noob', im impressed. Its time to walk away from this thread i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgtX80 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 In the words of the great lord humongous "just walk away" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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