supradibbs Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Right advise needed I work for AMerican Airline as a aircraft technician and recently took 3 months out to go work for a freighter outfit in Europe, really enjoyed the lads and the work bloody hard work at time mind you. Anyway am currently back at American doing all the routine crap and i get a phone call from the contract agency offering me a 12 month contract back ith the other lot pretty good money 21 a hour 40 hours garenteed a week hotel and flights paid for etc etc What do i do? do i leave a comany where the money is good i get free flights etc etc for somewhere that i may earn more money but have a damm good laugh and see a bit off the world The one thing thats making me wanna leave is i may get transfered to heathrow which would take about 1:30 mins plus getting to the office on a 4 on 2 off shift:( other job is 2 weeks on 6 days off:) i have spent nearly 8 years with this comany and i just dont know what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I would ask yourself what is the potential of the job you are in, and of course it is secure unlike contract work, if the potential is low it may be worth moving on, BUT the grass is always greener IMO, What about telling your current employer that you are thinking of moving as you have been made a very sound offer, would they counter offer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHanky Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 What do i do? do i leave a comany where the money is good i get free flights etc etc for somewhere that i may earn more money but have a damm good laugh and see a bit off the world I would say the answer is almost in the above question. Your 'but' statement is a good extra and not a negative which is unusual Having said that it's still a contract. I have no idea how hard or easy it would be to find work in your field after the 12 months is up. Good luck whatever you decide Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks guys the aviation industry is very up and down at the moment sometimes loads of work other times nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 the aviation industry is very up and down at the moment It helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 It helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think you should go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 On a serious note i agree with Matt, you sound like you enjoy it alot and the pay is blumming good. Just hope you can get back into a good job when youve done mate! But i also agree with tooquicktostop, youve been there a long time, maybe they will match the offer in some way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra matt Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Go mate nice to have a change and do something a bit different and £2650 a month in your pocket is a dame good wage . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jdbecks Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 why dont you say to your employer you wanna spend a year traveling and will they hold your job when you get back? my friend done it with ford he had been there 12 years, he went oz for a year and once he got back..started back with fords as if nothing had happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lynz_ Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Your young and if you get the opportunity for a better job and you can see more of the world then go for it. Do what you feel is right for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 If you have no other ties i.e. kids ,wife and stuff then go man. Life is to short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRX Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Do it.. gotta take opportunities like this when they arise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Its one on those things where you will ask your self what if 6 months down the line when AA ask you to move to Heathrow. It could go either way but the sensible man would look at the company (AA) and then look at life as a contractor. It can be harsh, people resent you because your earning more money than they are etc etc. Difficult choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I guess you only have an A&P? If you had/have a B1 or 2 then it's a different story and I would highly recommend going connying(sp). This also depends on what types you hold. But there is alot of work and good money on the circuit out there, and not just in Europe but all over. Heathrow is an arse place to work so I understand your plight. I know a couple of the lads at AA in LHR and while they enjoy it, staff rotation is quite high. I understand Delta is also shifting from LGW to LHR as well in the new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 go with what makes you happy mate no point regretting or being unhappy in what you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Take the sabbatical leave. Lots of employers now allow people a year or so off and then you're back in. No loss of position same pay etc. Government calls it "gardening leave" and will allow 5 years. You're actually losing two days leave on the contract I think. That's a lot of money there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Over the last two years I have watched the aircraft engineering pay just rise and rise with competent qualified technicians becoming more and more rare. The RAF and other militaries used to be the major trainers in this field feeding thousands of well trained technicians and management personel already benefitting from full pensions into the aviation industry. That has kept wages in this field ridiculously low. The constant feed has stopped post cold war force reduction and no-one else has been doing any training. I am finding myself in the favoursome position of a 35% pay increase for the same job over 2 years ago. Another thing I have noticed in this industry is promotion. Those that stay put loyal to the firm get bloody no-where. Their loyalty is thrown in their face as the managerial positions are given to tempt new people in to the company. I'll use one example. My first job in civvy street had 2 apprentices trained at that facility. One left and worked somewhere else for just over a year for more money the other stayed put. When the guy that left came back he did so on 4 or 5 grand a year more than when he left. The guy that stayed was offered only 1 grand pay rise. The worst part of it is the guy that stayed is a far better technician than the other guy. Same goes for the promotions. You could actually be doing yourself a huge favour by leaving for 12-24 months and I wouldn't be too worried about not getting a job back in blighty. I actually have more than 3 firm job offers in the UK in the last month. If I started actually looking in Europe I know for sure I would get bags of offers and I don't have a single license to my name. If I look further afield to canada and america there are jobs there for me. If I want hods of cash Iraq, Afghanistan, and guatemala. Short term huge money contracts in west africa are also available all the time. Heli one in Norway are paying alot more than 21 an hour as well (beer is ridiculously expensive though) I could get a job there tomorrow again all unlicensed work. I guess its down to personal circumstances. If it was just me I would have taken the job in Milan I was offered over the job I am now doing in Holland. You have no female ties I am aware of in the UK and as such are a free agent to work where you want. I can heartily recommend you get as much foreign work in now whilst you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 i hope it all takes off for you whichever you choose! :dsee what i did there?!:d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Good posting Dangerous.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movistar Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 snooze and you may loose...remember in bigger firms you are really only a number and you can be replaced like the next bloke...so just look out for no one! Take every opportunity to gain different experiences/knowledge in your field...and have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Over the last two years I have watched the aircraft engineering pay just rise and rise with competent qualified technicians becoming more and more rare. The RAF and other militaries used to be the major trainers in this field feeding thousands of well trained technicians and management personel already benefitting from full pensions into the aviation industry. That has kept wages in this field ridiculously low. The constant feed has stopped post cold war force reduction and no-one else has been doing any training. I am finding myself in the favoursome position of a 35% pay increase for the same job over 2 years ago. Another thing I have noticed in this industry is promotion. Those that stay put loyal to the firm get bloody no-where. Their loyalty is thrown in their face as the managerial positions are given to tempt new people in to the company. I'll use one example. My first job in civvy street had 2 apprentices trained at that facility. One left and worked somewhere else for just over a year for more money the other stayed put. When the guy that left came back he did so on 4 or 5 grand a year more than when he left. The guy that stayed was offered only 1 grand pay rise. The worst part of it is the guy that stayed is a far better technician than the other guy. Same goes for the promotions. You could actually be doing yourself a huge favour by leaving for 12-24 months and I wouldn't be too worried about not getting a job back in blighty. I actually have more than 3 firm job offers in the UK in the last month. If I started actually looking in Europe I know for sure I would get bags of offers and I don't have a single license to my name. If I look further afield to canada and america there are jobs there for me. If I want hods of cash Iraq, Afghanistan, and guatemala. Short term huge money contracts in west africa are also available all the time. Heli one in Norway are paying alot more than 21 an hour as well (beer is ridiculously expensive though) I could get a job there tomorrow again all unlicensed work. I guess its down to personal circumstances. If it was just me I would have taken the job in Milan I was offered over the job I am now doing in Holland. You have no female ties I am aware of in the UK and as such are a free agent to work where you want. I can heartily recommend you get as much foreign work in now whilst you can. I think you have answered all your own questions with the above. Go and do it lad. You know it's the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I think you have answered all your own questions with the above. Go and do it lad. You know it's the right choice. Err. It's Supradibbs question I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Err. It's Supradibbs question I think. Oh my bad. Ok the guy said all that said it all then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Do it man. You'll not regret it. Working and traveling in so many countries has been the best aspect of my life. Bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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