Taylor Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 further to this thread http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=63735 driving home from work today and the steering felt "really lumpy" like i would turn the wheel and part of the turn would have power steering and part of it wouldnt if that makes sense. then when i pulled up the engine temp was higher then normal it nomally stops at 90 but was at nearly 100. and it smelt funny! help me im worried bout her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 any1!!!??? getting worried and i aint got a spare car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 nobody had this problem then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Sounds related, power steering and water pump off the same belt? Maybe one or the other is on it's way out or slipping belt/knackered pulley wheel? Many know more than me so lets hope they come along soon mate:) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 yeh lets hope so! i wanna get it sorted but need to know what it is first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 any ideas on costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Sounds related, power steering and water pump off the same belt? It does . Definately worth checking the auxiliary drive belt. The standard Toyota one is shockingly expensive, the Gates one is cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithn05 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Following your threads sounds like you should first change the belt, the noises you heard were the belt slipping, worse when cold because the alternator is charging the battery hard and is harder to turn (hence more slip) and also on full lock because the ps pump is working harder. Now the belt is so worn its slipping more and causing overheating and more ps slippage. Once you have changed the belt check the tensioner (its on the lhd side from memory and is the only 'spring loaded' pulley. Make sure this is tensioning the belt properly, try and twist the belt through 90degrees on the longest edge thats usually a good rule of thumb (should be able to twist through 90degrees but quite stiff). If the new belt squeals, or slips the tensioner will need to be looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraFlynn Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Can a worn p/s pump cause the steering to feel "wooly" when driving in a straight line? (Like you can jiggle the steering wheel a little and it really doesn't affect the steering) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The crank damper outer ring has probably fallen off due to a botched cam belt change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Monkey Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 The auxillary belt is about £20 from a factor for the gates belt and is dead easy to change - remarkably easy! Run your car, open the PAS reservior cap and see if you have any foaming or bubbles, the fluid must be over the level of the side pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 who can i take it to round my area to check this out? m1 j28. what would be worse case scenario? and what would it cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Monkey Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Have a look at what I suggested first, this will tell you if there is air entering the system. Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 The crank damper outer ring has probably fallen off due to a botched cam belt change. Be worth checking this out first before going anywhere!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Done that daz but cant see any foaming or bubbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 The crank damper outer ring has probably fallen off due to a botched cam belt change. HOW DO I CHECK THIS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Btw What Color Should The Ps Fluid Be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 ok here is what i would do...... follow the path of the belt that goes round, amongst others, the power steering pulley. Look carefully at each pulley for anything that looks off line / out of the ordinary. Note the pulley thats central where the belt almost doubles back on itself has no 'sides' or 'lip' to it, this is normal as this is the tensioner wheel where the belt can be slid off it a 14mm spanner/socket is used to release the belt tension (socket has to be turned clockwise). If everything appears ok, then i'd get someone to start her up and turn the steering wheel, and observe again especially the crank pulley Chris mentions. Shouldn't think it would go at idle but you might want to avoid looking straight down at the belt/pulleys when doing this. Fluid starts off red but its probably more browny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 BTW inspect the belt in general, the belts 'V's will have cracks in them but this normal. The belt life can be measured by the marker on the part of the tensioner where it pivots on the engine block. From visualising it in my head the nearer the pointer on the tensioner is to the right of the adjustment band the more worn (stretched) the belt is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Monkey Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 if my hand wasnt f**ked up, I would come and have a look myself! sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 HOW DO I CHECK THIS? See this thread : http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=64585 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 checked all these thingsand it all looks o.k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 have you had a helper turn the wheel while you look? still nothing untoward? no noises etc when they say its getting stiff? Next thing i'd do is remove the belt, not difficult but potentially a bit daunting if you don't dabble, mechanics wise. Basically it just requires you putting a 14mm spanner on the nut of tensioner pulley. Put it horizontal (slightly downwards will be better) and pointing towards the battery and then push down. A fair amount of pressure is required and someone else to remove the belt from the tensioner makes it easier. Then you can inspect each pulley for play and whether its free spinning or feels rough etc. I think all (apart from the crank pulley!) should be free spinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 o.k i will try with an assistant but its at bodyshop a the mo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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