Daston Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Hey guys Fitting my new CR's (car still jacked up) and the old rear wheels had spacers as they were 9". However after getting the spacers off it would appear that my studs have been cut short inorder for them to fit the spacers! The wheels fit on and the nuts do do up but how safe is it as they do not have the full thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 not a chance in hell i'd use those mate! can't understand why your studs would be cut short in order to use spacers though. surely they'd need to be longer if anything?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Ah shit! The spacers have new studs attached but I cant fit the CR's under the wheel with them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 You need a minimum of 6 full turns to be safe. I was told this by some engineering lecturer years ago, so beileve its true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 You need a minimum of 6 full turns to be safe. I was told this by some engineering lecturer years ago, so beileve its true I always said 5 so 6 sounds good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 You need a minimum of 6 full turns to be safe. I was told this by some engineering lecturer years ago, so beileve its true Bang on. Can't believe they've cut the studs! Gaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 I know you would not believe how disappointed I am Heres some pic's of the housing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Ok so the real question is what can I do about it. Is it a case of just new studs and removing the old ones. If so how is that done? Or do I need a new bell housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Old studs press out or bash out with a big hammer. New studs push in from behind. Tightening the wheel up onto the hub will pull them fully in so nothing special needed to install them. The brake drum will have to come off to get to them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah not worth risking your/other peoples necks and them lovely wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Old studs press out or bash out with a big hammer. New studs push in from behind. Tightening the wheel up onto the hub will pull them fully in so nothing special needed to install them. I used an old, open ended nut to tighten my studs back into place when I replaced mine - I'd strongly recommend you do the same to reduce the chance of over-tightening against the alloy wheel and risking damaging it:Pling: Plenty of info about removing the old ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 ARP ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_SWZ Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 are you are sure the studs in the spacers are not supra ones ? you might be able to swap them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'd strongly recommend you do the same to reduce the chance of over-tightening against the alloy wheel and risking damaging it:Pling: I'd use a torque wrench 120Nm for bevelled nuts as used on most aftermarket wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 They might be an interferance fit so it might be worth using a blow tourch on the hubs to heat it up and expand it do the studs go in easier. When it all cools it should shrink onto the studs and bite in. Just bashing them in can leave you with loose studs that want to turn when you tighten the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 are you are sure the studs in the spacers are not supra ones ? you might be able to swap them ! they are the same size but not sure if they will be long enough can always give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 ARP ones! Any idea where I can get these from Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 They might be an interferance fit so it might be worth using a blow tourch on the hubs to heat it up and expand it do the studs go in easier. When it all cools it should shrink onto the studs and bite in. Just bashing them in can leave you with loose studs that want to turn when you tighten the nuts. They are meant to be an interfence spline fit. Press them out (beating them out can *ugger the hub bearings). Pull new ones in with an old nut and a hardened washer. Using a blow torch on the hub is a sure way of *uggering the grease seals on the hub bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 BTW those spacers are shocking. I hate ANY spacers, but if you just MUST have them use hub concentric ones with certified fasterners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Press them out What sort of device do you use to do this? I really ought to change the ones on the Tiger and have often wondered the best way to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 BTW those spacers are shocking. I hate ANY spacers, but if you just MUST have them use hub concentric ones with certified fasterners. I agree with you 100% Chris one of the reasons I got new wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Take the hubs off and use a press Pete. You can sometimes use a ball joint splitter, but it's not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 Right going to have a go at removing the studs myself does anyone know the diamiture and length of normal studs? Just that my old man is planning on making a supra stud removing tool for me (he's an engineering manager need I say more?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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