Lucifer Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I would say probably the only way to test for gain/loss is dyno the car directly before and after fitment, other than that it is the placebo effect that makes you think you have made some gain, if you look what mkivstore are doing with Jody's SZ this is the right way to see gains with various mods See someone else who knows what they are doing LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naybad Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I really do want a pipe like that cos my enjoin bay looks so crap just now. The best way for me to get the car to go faster would be to get on the tread mill and loos some of this 120 KG that I am caring about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz supra Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 I would say something though,and i noticed it immediatley The car certainly feels much crisper lower down the rev range, pick up in certainly improved at lower revs before the NA magic 5500 rpm Wonder if you were to fit this pipe and still keep standard Airbox whether any improvement would be seen either, When you look at the standard pipe there seems to be a lot of restriction in Airflow with the Resonator boxes etc not allowing Air straight in and smoothly , Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I would say probably the only way to test for gain/loss is dyno the car directly before and after fitment, other than that it is the placebo effect that makes you think you have made some gain I agree, and as Martin stated above it's proven too. All i asked for was to see how and where on the curve it effected it and now it seems there is no proof. I wouldn't have cared if you hadn't of mentioned you've proved it, but i was intrested in the technical data since it seemed there was some. And Martin what's with all the "Wo is me, im such a bad man" routine that you keep doing lately?? Makes you look like a 13 year old trying to get the upper hand with his parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 NO sheets available as it was for our development, but if you take it right up to the plenum you loose around 5BHP. INduction length is suited per car, so it is very critical. how long should it be then martin im gonna do mine after crimbo would like to get the right length cant afford to lose bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Since Turbofit done my pipe ive noticed a slightly different induction noise and the pickup low down is a bit more responsive, but now im used to it so ive got bored again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I made my own up and noticed very little difference either way. The added noise made it worthwhile though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGSi Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Since Turbofit done my pipe ive noticed a slightly different induction noise and the pickup low down is a bit more responsive, but now im used to it so ive got bored again [qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/BlueXR2/pipenew.jpg[/qimg] [qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/BlueXR2/newpipe3.jpg[/qimg] If your pipe was 3" longer the filter'd be through your headlight! Looks nice and tidy and adds abit of bling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I really would love to see a before and after dyno of these things, I really would Just out of interest, would you rather fit to your NA: a) A system developed with tuned lengths to increase low down torque, resonator boxes to avoid annoying noises, and cold air intake ducting to get the best possible source of air. b) A system designed using the criteria of "does it fit and look shiny" which ignores any pulse tuning or resonance aspects, and picks up hot engine bay air that has just gone through the radiator and is forced into the air filter by the engine fan c) A performance uprated aftermarket induction kit as detailed in this thread? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I really would love to see a before and after dyno of these things, I really would Just out of interest, would you rather fit to your NA: a) A system developed with tuned lengths to increase low down torque, resonator boxes to avoid annoying noises, and cold air intake ducting to get the best possible source of air. b) A system designed using the criteria of "does it fit and look shiny" which ignores any pulse tuning or resonance aspects, and picks up hot engine bay air that has just gone through the radiator and is forced into the air filter by the engine fan c) A performance uprated aftermarket induction kit as detailed in this thread? -Ian Honastly, the figures were just written down on a sheet of paper as it was for our development. Oh and BTW I pick - A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz supra Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Well the pipe has been on 5 days now and it gets better and better (does the ECU adjust to compensate for more air???), The car has a "very noticeable kick" it really responds now and picks up very quickly from 3500rpm with a "kick" I'd go as far as to say the best £80.00+ vat i have ever spent on the car, Induction sound is sweet too along with the exhaust, The missus drove it today and without me saying anything prior when she got back in she said blimey that car drives totally different.. very responsive As I said best £80.00 i've ever spent.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 The car has a "very noticeable kick" it really responds now and picks up very quickly from 3500rpm with a "kick" Did you get in an identical TT by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz supra Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Did you get in an identical TT by any chance? Yeah i know, LOL!!! can't beleive the difference for so little money, Never thought it would make a blind bit of difference TBH, did it for looks really It used to have the typical NA punch at 5500rpm , now it wakes up and just pulls from 3500rpm, so well pleased and the sound change is a bonus too.. It would be interesting if anyone has fitted this pipe with a std Airbox and noticed any changes too ??? + it would look good as well even with the std Airbox, that black plastic pipe is nasy looking.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 It can be done cheaper :) Mine cost me around £50 (+ the Apexi obviously) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Chris did you spray your cover yourself?? If so very good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Chris did you spray your cover yourself?? If so very good job The cam covers were powder coated by colsoop, I then painted the plastic parts and the red Rising Sun logo by hand (Hammerite) - would have had a better finish had I sprayed it but it was really just a 'practice run' - glad you like it dude - once I get the Lex I'll be having another go (and colsoop will be busy again LOL) :d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yeah looks very good. I had a similar idea myself but was too scared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffSupra Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Is there anything as good or better as the stock box for a TT? Apex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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