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Why is Valvoline 5/50 so highly rated on this Forum?


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Why is Valvoline 5/50 so highly rated on this Forum? I would've have thought that Valvoline a little thin for turbo engines..

 

I used to use 15W40 Redline Engine oil or 15W50 Mobil 1 motorsport on my MR2 GT Turbo, however Redline Engine oil is pretty expensive stuff..

 

I would be interested to hear your opinions, especially when toyota recommends around 10w30. :conf:

 

 

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hi osso ,ive just put it in mine . i think the lower the first number is ,relates to the thickness of the oil, so 5 is thin , so it gets around quicker . and 50 has something to do with the operating temp, which is high enough for the turbos.

and the make is well known for quality. hope im right , if not wtf sounds good . :p :cool:

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Originally posted by peter richards

hi osso ,ive just put it in mine . i think the lower the first number is ,relates to the thickness of the oil, so 5 is thin , so it gets around quicker . and 50 has something to do with the operating temp, which is high enough for the turbos.

and the make is well known for quality. hope im right , if not wtf sounds good . :p :cool:

 

Trouble is if its too thin then Supras suffer with oil leaks hence 0 Weight is a no no ie Mobil 1 , front oil seal is prime candidate for a leak when using a thinner than reccomended oil !!!!

 

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Originally posted by dude

Trouble is if its too thin then Supras suffer with oil leaks hence 0 Weight is a no no ie Mobil 1 , front oil seal is prime candidate for a leak when using a thinner than reccomended oil !!!!

 

Dude:flame Dev

 

I agree, which is the reason why im wondering why some people on here rate Valvoline 5/50 :conf: maybe there's something im not aware of.

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I know leon sells this so the answer would be yes its fine , but if you get any leaks then maybe this is the place to look , ive replaced a couple of front seals now and i know this is a weak point on the JZA-80 engine , personally i dont use valvolene , i think any decent oil of the correct viscosity will be fine , I use Mobil 1 Motorsport and do a change every 2500 miles with a Lexus oil filter .

 

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blimey every 2500 miles? Your engine oil must look very clean :p each to their own i guess, Ii used to change my oil and filter in the MR2 GT Turbo every 3,000 to 4,000 miles depends on how hard the car has been driven between oil changes.. :thumbs:

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Originally posted by osso

Why is Valvoline 5/50 so highly rated on this Forum? I would've have thought that Valvoline a little thin for turbo engines..

 

I used to use 15W40 Redline Engine oil or 15W50 Mobil 1 motorsport on my MR2 GT Turbo, however Redline Engine oil is pretty expensive stuff..

 

I would be interested to hear your opinions, especially when toyota recommends around 10w30. :conf:

Cheers

I believe it works like this. The first number (5) is the relative viscosity of the oil when it is cold, 0 being thinnest. 50 is the relative viscosity when it is hot.

So Valvoline compared to 10W30, is thinner when cold, for easier starting, but thicker when hot, for better protection against wear.

The W means that it is suitable for Winter use.

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Originally posted by Gordon F

I believe it works like this. The first number (5) is the relative viscosity of the oil when it is cold, 0 being thinnest. 50 is the relative viscosity when it is hot.

So Valvoline compared to 10W30, is thinner when cold, for easier starting, but thicker when hot, for better protection against wear.

The W means that it is suitable for Winter use.

 

Thats correct, but i dont think 5/50 is suitable for our climates, i pretty sure our weather isnt cold enough to warrent 5/50 all year round.

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You should be able to run an exotic 0 weight oil, like neo, without oil leaks. The seals shouldn't (an if in good order don't) care about oil viscosity, it's an urban myth. The main reason front seals give trouble is people try and run too much boost, damage rings or pistons (bores even..), get blowby into the sump, and the front seal seems the first place excess crankcase pressure vents oil from, or even blows the whole seal out. The breathers on the MKIV TT engine are quite small, they won't deal with worn bores and a lot of piston blow-by.

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My front seal went the first time it hit high boost after being stood for quite a long time , after being changed it hits higher boost ALL the time and never given a problem , how would you explain this ???? As James says the yanks also reckon this is a 'servicable' item hence a lot of threads about it , when changed for a new one the problem is cured , if it was a result of too high a boost setting it would simply re-appear !!!

 

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Shaft seals have a metal chassis inside the rubber. I suppose its possible that this may have relaxed over time, or the rubber between the chassis and the housing has relaxed.

 

I'd recommend having the front oil seal changed at the same time as the timing belt, since the front end drive is already stripped down.

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Originally posted by Darren Blake

Shaft seals have a metal chassis inside the rubber. I suppose its possible that this may have relaxed over time, or the rubber between the chassis and the housing has relaxed.

 

I'd recommend having the front oil seal changed at the same time as the timing belt, since the front end drive is already stripped down.

 

My thoughts excactly .

 

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Incidentally, when you replace a shaft seal its a good idea not to push it into exactly the same location as the previous one. Bizarre as it may seem, the floppy rubber sleaing lip actually wears a groove in the cranksfaft. Its nice to give the new seal a new surface to run on.

 

Not very many engine designs allow for this, however.

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