DamanC Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Dirt cheap, are they any cop thou? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Supra-JZA80-Front-mounted-Intercooler-kits_W0QQitemZ8072433425QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hi M8, I'm afraid I'm going to leave the tech-side to the boys that know their stuff but from my recent purchase of an IC through the internet; just be very careful!! The P&P in the advert is £30 from Japan and they state that it will take 3-7 days to arrive - Bollox to be honest. At that price, you should expect it to arrive in approx 8 weeks from your funds being cleared and them getting the logistic side of the operation sorted (i.e. dispatch of your IC in the post). The DHL service from Japan costs approx 75 notes and takes 4 days so the £30 option will soon find your IC on the 'slow boat'. The next 'potential' problem is that your IC may get damaged through the freight system and finally; the customs may bang you for lots of money on import and excise taxes. (Cheap then turns to expensive) Thankfully, none of the above happened to me but its the chance you take and I know a number of boys who have come unstuck - you just try and get your money back when you complain that your IC has been damaged in transit. Sorry I can't help on the tech stuff m8 but every bit of info helps eh! Regards Buddy, Andrew:salute: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 These are made in China, just over the border from here, they are sold under the Hybrid brand name. A few members have fitted them and reported that the IC hard pipes will not fit around the stock airbox, so you would probably need to fit an aftermarket induction kit *spit*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hi M8, I'm afraid I'm going to leave the tech-side to the boys that know their stuff but from my recent purchase of an IC through the internet; just be very careful!! The P&P in the advert is £30 from Japan and they state that it will take 3-7 days to arrive - Bollox to be honest. At that price, you should expect it to arrive in approx 8 weeks from your funds being cleared and them getting the logistic side of the operation sorted (i.e. dispatch of your IC in the post). The DHL service from Japan costs approx 75 notes and takes 4 days so the £30 option will soon find your IC on the 'slow boat'. The next 'potential' problem is that your IC may get damaged through the freight system and finally; the customs may bang you for lots of money on import and excise taxes. (Cheap then turns to expensive) Thankfully, none of the above happened to me but its the chance you take and I know a number of boys who have come unstuck - you just try and get your money back when you complain that your IC has been damaged in transit. Sorry I can't help on the tech stuff m8 but every bit of info helps eh! Regards Buddy, Andrew:salute: i bought an ebay hybrid from japan. it came exactly when stated 3 days.was packed +bubble wrapped to the max .is great build quality and looks great in the front spoiler. at 429 inc post i would definatly recommend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 does look nice in the pics & the price is nice too people who've gone for the 'hybrid' FMIC seem to be happy which seems to be an equivalent budget FMIC. it comes back to the old saying about 'if you've currently got a 10 year old SMIC...' then surely it's got to be as good as that! one thing i would be questioning is their kits fitment quality & any modifications required, e.g. the airbox & the power steering pipework that i've heard mentioned before as being in the way a little i wonder if they'd offer a better price again for a batch order & save on shipping? i'd be interested if they were any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 so you would probably need to fit an aftermarket induction kit *spit*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 M8, I bought the same unit 8 days ago - Genuine Hybrid GT Spec Race IC for £410 incl DHL P&P. I checked the blokes Feedback first and it was very good. The genuine item description; the tracking number; the DHL insurnace (plus feedback) were the things that reassured me. Don't get me wrong, I would do the same thing all over again but some companies are perhaps not as good as what ours were. All I'm saying is just do your reasearch and be careful. DamanC: Try this link m8: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HYBRID-GT-SPEC-RACE-INTERCOOLER-KIT-TOYOTA-SUPRA-TURBO_W0QQitemZ8071773072QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem i bought an ebay hybrid from japan. it came exactly when stated 3 days.was packed +bubble wrapped to the max .is great build quality and looks great in the front spoiler. at 429 inc post i would definatly recommend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 End tank design is terrible, the flow through the core will be very poor and uneven. Buy a better designed one. The Blitz ones are very good, if you want something off the shelf. Far better than the Blitz and HKS et cetera are available custome made, but then you get into serious wedge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 End tank design is terrible, the flow through the core will be very poor and uneven. Buy a better designed one. The Blitz ones are very good, if you want something off the shelf. Far better than the Blitz and HKS et cetera are available custome made, but then you get into serious wedge. Thanks Chris for your opinion, always interesting to get you view on parts. Could you explain a little why the end tanks are a poor design compared to others such as the Blitz? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 The air should enter the core so it isn't directed at a few rows of tubes, but instead, obliquely, so it uses the full core section. The air molecules won't have time or disatnce to change direction to utilize all the tubes in the I/C shown, instead, it will favour those tubes directly opposite the entry pipe. A quick Google found this: http://toyotaperformance.com/intercooler.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 Cheers for your imput guys, its appricated Chris i think i see what your saying. What would happen is air comes in the bottom left hand side, travels along the bottom and exits the bottom right hand side. Not moving around all if the IC and therefore not ultilising the IC's full capisity. Putting one enterance/exit in one of the top corners would resolve this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Probably not, as then it'd enter top left, go through the top rows, hit the right hand side, have a nasty pressure drop as it goes through 90deg and flows down to the exit, with another nasty pressure drop as it turns through another 90deg. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 If you consider air and air / fuel mix as water you get a better picture of what it wants to do, and how you are causing inefficiency by trying to make it do something else. If you sent a jet of water from a garden hose through that intake pipe, which tubes would it try and go through, and which would it probably not, or only dribble through? Not a perfect analogy, but it works well enough to show why additional injectors at the throttle body, for example, won't give equal fuelling to all cylinders, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 so the intakes are best to be central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 SO why is the Stock IC of a corner to corner design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 This is the Hybrid web site http://www.powerdigger.com/ According to their eBay shop, the "official" eBay seller is flyingperformance http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Flying-Performance-International Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i think its easy to get a bit hung up on intercooler design, for the average car i would say these are a good replacement for a crumbling fag butt ridden side mount with an air intake the size of a can of beans, i built my own I/C using the bigest Pace core i could fit in but would probably have considered one of these if they had been available back then, ok the ducting issue comes into it and i have never seen a front mount ducted properly yet (apart from mine lol) but a lot of cars with the cheaper I/C's will probably only run BPU power levels and i hate to say it but i think a fair percentage of the people who buy them get them for cosmetic reasons and dont give a fig about effeciency, pressure drop etc, i am in no way slaggin those people off as we all do cosmetic stuff to make our cars look better dont we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 This is the Hybrid web site http://www.powerdigger.com/ According to their eBay shop, the "official" eBay seller is flyingperformance http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Flying-Performance-International Now im just geting confused here.... Iv heard from alot of people that this is the "official" Hybrid web page ? http://www.hybrid-power.com/index.php Can somone tell me the REAL site ? EDIT: An old info site about the Hybrid http://modernmusclecar.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=93#93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Now I'm just geting confused here.... I've heard from alot of people that this is the "official" Hybrid web page ? http://www.hybrid-power.com/index.php Can somone tell me the REAL site? Both of them Perhaps I spend too much time on the Australian Soarer Forum. Contact Us Our Address: Hybrid Development International B33, 12/F, Phase 1Wah Lok Industrial Building, 37-41 Shan Mei Street, Fotan, Shatin, NT Hong Kong Hybrid Development International engineering Australian "Hybrid" performance product distributor: POWERDIGGER.COM pty ltd 3/8 Moorlands road, Ingleburn, NSW 2565, Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 does look nice in the pics & the price is nice too people who've gone for the 'hybrid' FMIC seem to be happy which seems to be an equivalent budget FMIC. it comes back to the old saying about 'if you've currently got a 10 year old SMIC...' then surely it's got to be as good as that! one thing i would be questioning is their kits fitment quality & any modifications required, e.g. the airbox & the power steering pipework that i've heard mentioned before as being in the way a little i wonder if they'd offer a better price again for a batch order & save on shipping? i'd be interested if they were any good have retained the airbox although it did need slightly modding at back.works fine and am well pleased with results. power steering and overflow bottle fine . i also had to move autobox cooler an inch or so but mine is a uk so you will not need to do this on a jap spec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 have retained the airbox although it did need slightly modding at back.works fine and am well pleased with results. power steering and overflow bottle fine . i also had to move autobox cooler an inch or so but mine is a uk so you will not need to do this on a jap spec noticeable results? how would you describe the difference? you UK spec guys are already used to a bit more lag aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 SO why is the Stock IC of a corner to corner design? Because the end tanks are designed to flow air properly from corner to corner. Take a look a the Sparco website to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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