Gaz Walker Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 from Autotrader.co.uk 02 June 2006 DRIVERS will be allowed to turn left at red traffic lights under new plans proposed by the Conservatives. The proposal is just one of a raft of schemes unveiled today and is designed to cut the UK's traffic congestion. Motorists would be able to turn left when the road is clear, in a similar system to that used in Canada and North America. Further suggestions, put forward by former cabinet minister John Redwood, include speed limits that are only enforced during busy periods, more pedestrian bridges and more cycle lanes on pavements. Edmund King of the RAC Foundation said: "It's good that the Conservatives have come up with a clear list of suggestions, but the turning left at red lights rule is a recipe for disaster. "Put the rule into play on Baker Street outside Madame Tussauds, and you'd run into trouble very quickly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I like the sound of the speed limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Further suggestions, put forward by former cabinet minister John Redwood, include speed limits that are only enforced during busy periods, more pedestrian bridges and more cycle lanes on pavements. Sounds like some good ideas there, but coming from John Redwood Lets hope its someone else who puts these ideas into practise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Haha I nearly died so many times in New York. I'm happy with lighs as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 What about when there's a junction that requires a right turn from the other direction - currently light controlled; under the new scheme would mean both directions of travel would be filtering into the same road!!! Variable speed limits and more pedestrian crossing routes is a good idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Turning left in the US works as if you cause a car to brake (break? ) you'll get done. It'll never work here as no one will enforce that and it'll be carnage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 More cycle lanes !!!! waste of time and good money, they dont use the ones they got now. Before they give them anywhere else to play, they should think about getting them licenced, insured, and taxed like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Bloody Tories! Stealing my ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Zap Not only am I a supra owner but I also cycle to work the cycle lanes around where i live are used quit a bit not only for people to get to work but also for pleasure As regards being taxed to use these lanes don,t you think as a working men we are taxed enough ? Also I don,t know if you have kids but are you saying that every little tricycle and bicycle should be taxed, licensed and insured ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Zap Not only am I a supra owner but I also cycle to work the cycle lanes around where i live are used quit a bit not only for people to get to work but also for pleasure As regards being taxed to use these lanes don,t you think as a working men we are taxed enough ? Also I don,t know if you have kids but are you saying that every little tricycle and bicycle should be taxed, licensed and insured ? honestly I think cyclists should be insured. They have the potential to cause damage/accident and are a method of transport for use on the public road. I dont really care about taxing them as I think that would be OTT. There are a LOT of cycle lanes around here (oxford - cycle city), but a lot of riders STILL use the paths, keeps them out of my way though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 everyone has the potential to cause damage Are you saying we should all be insured third party ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 everyone has the potential to cause damage Are you saying we should all be insured third party ? I am not a vehicle, a bike is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I agree with the thirs party thing- maybe it's something that should come as standard with home insurance or something as it seems excessive to have a seperate policy for it. I always wonder what would happen if a cyclist smashed into my car for example. I'd be pissed that I'd have to claim off my own insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I always wonder what would happen if a cyclist smashed into my car for example. I'd be pissed that I'd have to claim off my own insurance. Get their details and they pay if they were at fault. Otherwise the person will be making a trip to the A&E to have handlebars removed from a place where the sun does not shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Get their details and they pay if they were at fault. Otherwise the person will be making a trip to the A&E to have handlebars removed from a place where the sun does not shine. Yorkshire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Yorkshire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Yorkshire? Probably, agressive northerners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Zap Also I don,t know if you have kids but are you saying that every little tricycle and bicycle should be taxed, licensed and insured ? If they are old enough to use the roads then yes pay like the rest of us. Otherwise stay on the cycle paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Otherwise stay on the cycle paths. so now you like the idea of cycle paths ? I am not a vehicle, a bike is your legs are a method of transport. If you walk into the road and get hit by a car and damage the car who pay,s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 If you walk into the road and get hit by a car and damage the car who pay,s ? The car driver goes to prison, the NHS get lumbered with your bill. I hate pedestrians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 the NHS get lumbered with your bill you me and every body who works for a living pays for the NHS through there tax (NHS/ national insurance contributions ) therefore you have already paid the insurance for that already I hate pedestrians. you never walk anywhere then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 you me and every body who works for a living pays for the NHS through there tax (NHS/ national insurance contributions ) therefore you have already paid the insurance for that already I bet you're one of those people who tells the police that 'you pay their wages' aren't you? you never walk anywhere then ? Yep, but I never cross the road except at a crossing (and obviously when down country lanes etc where there aren't any crossings!!). I annoy my girlfriend regularly at big junctions when on foot because I make her wait for the green man whereas usually pedestrians seem to just walk across when one traffic light goes red - not realising that another one has just gone green!!!! Never cross down roads with parked cars. Never cross when traffic has stopped. Always give traffic right of way - even in car parks. Essentially car drivers don't know I exist. I'm a car driver - even when I'm on foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 so now you like the idea of cycle paths ? Nothing wrong with them if they are used, what annoys me is when the council narrows the road to make a cycle path and the brain deaders still use the already narrow road, then hurl abuse at you when tell them to use whats provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 They also still use the pavement around here where the cycle lane is actually a section of the road!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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