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B11GYS

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Hello All, i have come across this new product on the market. I have been using it in my NA 95 Supra and my car has become alot more responsive and a bit quicker. I havent got confirmed figures yet but it seems at half tank i have got 24 more MPG than i would usually have. Check it out cos it doesnt cost much to try it out.

 

http://www.supramileage.myffi.biz

 

Msg me if u got any more questions

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This one I know it works, because I've tried it time and again.

 

Promises less, and delivers.

 

Nothing else I've found to work, not even remotely.

Affinity for placebo.

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24 extra MPG on a car that does about 24MPG. Wait until Ford and GM hear about this. They'll be kicking themselves and no mistake.

 

And OPEC.

 

How the fu*k did I miss that one!

I'm assuming he must mean 'miles per tank' or 'miles per fillup'.

Actually, he says "At half tank I have 24 more MPG". He must mean he's getting 24 more miles when he's half-full (half empty?)

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  • 3 weeks later...

With the accuracy of sender units, I'd be happy to see +/- 50 miles on a rolling road dyno with the car absolutely steady running the same loads in a back to back test. An engine dyno is the only way of testing it empirically using a baselined engine on a reference (undosed) fuel initially and using an accurate gravimertic fuel meter while running load range curves & measuring the BSFC. Eiter that or on an emissions rollingroad running the NEDC and calculating SFC from the bagged CO2.

 

In a former job I calibrated the rundry protection on the Ford Focus diesel, which was designed to protect the fuel injection pump from running dry. The sender was so innacurate that at a certain level we had to switch from reading the tank level from the sender to counting fuel pulses. Ah, the good old days of driving around Basildon waiting for it to trigger the programmed misfire.

 

Anyone own a Focus Diesel BTW? Tried my system out?

 

Back on topic, I'm sceptical. Show me empirical data, and not just some Taxi smokemeter reading from an old MOT test where it was dirty one time & clean the next, heck can do that on my Bedford truck by not warming it up properly!

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Fuel economy is one of the biggest selling points of a new car. If this level of improvement was possible with this product, the OEMs would be fast in snapping it up in exclusive deals to get a huuuuuge unique selling point over all the competitors. They havent, because it doesn't.

 

-Ian

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I'll go further than that: I reckon that fuel economy is set to become THE biggest selling point for that majority of cars in the near future. The US are starting to see gas-guzzling cars as indirectly putting money into Middle Eastern economies. Toyota are still making a loss on every single Prius they sell, so you would expect the OEMs to pounce on a cheap and cheerful bolt-on gizmo that helps rather than invest millions of dollars in research into hybrid vehicles and other technologies.

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Fuel economy is one of the biggest selling points of a new car. If this level of improvement was possible with this product, the OEMs would be fast in snapping it up in exclusive deals to get a huuuuuge unique selling point over all the competitors. They havent, because it doesn't.

 

-Ian

 

Too true! Especially these days.

 

All manufacturers are looking at all technologies for improvements. There's a move to rationalise everything and make all systems less consuming. Look at the trend towards EPAS (like the Fiat Punto with the girly button). It only draws power when required, not like a recirculating fluid PAS. Cost over the regular PAS system a couple of $ but they're all going for it for those few g of CO2 less on the emissions cycle.

 

A little capsule or liquid that doses the fuel and catalyses the combustion in the cylinder, and turns things red??? I don't think so.... However, if you want to reduce heat transfer from the combustion flame to the piston crown & combustion chamber get the chamber coated in a hgh temp enamel coating that insulats the parts from the heat. More energy going to power the vehicle = more MPG.

 

Perhaps that's what this product is doing by insulating the chamber from the flamefront... building up a layer of carbon? WHo knows?

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lol look at all of you judgin it as it dont work and all ya la la la, i have now used it thru 3 tankfuls of fuel and ma car runnin soo sweet!!. plus i have got extra mileage out the car so i aint complaining so why dont u all try it or stop trying to be the judge! i only got 24% more mileage but i did put ma foot down a hell of a alot more times than usual and i still got better mileage!:p also the engine seems to be quieter!

As for emmissions i aint tested it but i have one cat out and my MOT end of the month, i shall see how it is going then

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lol look at all of you judgin it as it dont work and all ya la la la, i have now used it thru 3 tankfuls of fuel and ma car runnin soo sweet!!. plus i have got extra mileage out the car so i aint complaining so why dont u all try it or stop trying to be the judge! i only got 24% more mileage but i did put ma foot down a hell of a alot more times than usual and i still got better mileage!:p also the engine seems to be quieter!

As for emmissions i aint tested it but i have one cat out and my MOT end of the month, i shall see how it is going then

 

Well I washed mine and the engine sounds better now, so that must work too.

 

-Ian

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Well I washed mine and the engine sounds better now, so that must work too.

 

-Ian

 

Even better, as its raining I kept mine in the garage:

 

Must be a miracle or something, its so quiet and fuel consumption is zero!

 

B11GYS, sorry to be so cynical, but I am! There are so many cons out there trying to get joe public to part with his/her hard earned dosh that I personally can't believe anything until its proven to me & I've run the tests myself.

 

Now if it had been tested properly and the results published in the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) journal as a research paper with proven evidence, then I may change my mind.

 

Slick 50 were fined $Millions in the States for falsely claiming their product did this and that, X MPG more & could run the engine on no oil after using it etc.

Following the fine, their reputation was s**t.

They then did their research properly & published the results in an SAE paper for the world to see. The result was:

No claimed increase in MPG

No claimed increase in power

No claimed protection from running out of oil

No claimed smoother & quieter running

Only a claim that the camshaft would wear a bit less!

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