b_have Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Cool James How much are the fans and stats? do you have part numbers/contact address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 yeah i also need the info on that thermostat please mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Got some fans and the new thermostats that i will try and put on tomorrow. They fit perfect between the fmic and the auto coolers. Have even decided to get a fan for the oil cooler too now james these look suspiciously like cabinet cooling fans are you sure they'll handle getting piss wet through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 james these look suspiciously like cabinet cooling fans are you sure they'll handle getting piss wet through True these ae not sealed units. and certainly will not move enough air for a tranny cooler. Just take a look at teh CFM rating. The Spal 7.5 we sell moved 520CFM. Not trying to sell anything, just dont want to anyone to burn their tranny (vestive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 They are splash proof fans and are good for 169.9cu.m/h. Would be nicer to have more air going through but should be fine we these puppies plus got them for free and couldn't find an others. May have another search around though quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Fans and thermostat's can be found here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 cheers James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) True these ae not sealed units. and certainly will not move enough air for a tranny cooler. Just take a look at teh CFM rating. The Spal 7.5 we sell moved 520CFM. Not trying to sell anything, just dont want to anyone to burn their tranny (vestive) good point here mate i used to use a lot of these cabinet fans in a previous job and the air they move is piss poor compared to a spal, please note i have edited the post where i quoted stat part number from RS this was for a normaly closed contact (wrong) should have been normaly open, the number in the thread now is for a 75 degree stat i have lost the packet for the 70 degree one but am sure i can get the number if anyone wants it Edited December 29, 2008 by paul mac tidy up of info (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 They are splash proof fans and are good for 169.9cu.m/h. Would be nicer to have more air going through but should be fine we these puppies plus got them for free and couldn't find an others. May have another search around though quickly. I hope you are ducting all that as putting all that infront of your RAD is not doing much for water cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Spent many late nights trying to find positions for my coolers. Really didn't want to steel any cold (fmic warm) airflow from the rad so squeezed two in the nearside matching my Bomex intakes. I use the offside flow for an external mount for my K&N and below that I have ducted feed to cool the compessor hsg.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Spent many late nights trying to find positions for my coolers. Really didn't want to steel any cold (fmic warm) airflow from the rad so squeezed two in the nearside matching my Bomex intakes. I use the offside flow for an external mount for my K&N and below that I have ducted feed to cool the compessor hsg.- That's the way to do it. If I had my way, anything over 400bhp would have the condenser removed too. Unless your RAD is in its top 20% of its life, it needs all teh help it can get at high BHP. As we ALL know, heat kills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Spent many late nights trying to find positions for my coolers. Really didn't want to steel any cold (fmic warm) airflow from the rad so squeezed two in the nearside matching my Bomex intakes. I use the offside flow for an external mount for my K&N and below that I have ducted feed to cool the compessor hsg.- See i'd like to have put the auto coolers where you have your ducting but they're just not gonna fit. Im better of ducting the air there to the rad. I'll just have to get the single on and then see what's what and adjust the best i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 James, how about making some 'TRD' syle side vents in the front wing to use for extra coolers? Dude and other have used these to good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Yeah that's not a bad idea. I'll have to do a search for some pictures to see. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 What coolers do you have, i its those Mocal ones in the photo they do fit, you jest need to jiggle them. I have a photo of my old road car around somewhere with 3 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yeah both 13 row Mocal coolers. I could always get a new fmic pipe fabricated to be out the way but im playing with the idea of a 4 row to go in at the moment. I'll have another look tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 It is best not to put the coolers in the way. Go one... get rid of teh air con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rob_ Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Bit of a resurection, i know... Im looking at installing a fan and thermostatic switch to my tranny cooler. PaulMac recomends fitting the thermo switch to the outside of the hot side of the tranny cooler. Hows this fixed on? Just literally bolted to it? Will wind chill or ambient temp not affect the operating parameters of the switch? ie: at 100 mph, would the wind chill cool the termostat enough so as not to engage the fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Will wind chill or ambient temp not affect the operating parameters of the switch? This was the reason my thermostats are still sat at home in their packageing. Great idea but i feel to easy to be fooled into an inaccurate tempertaure. You could no more nails it i guess. Maybe superglue even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rob_ Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Is there nothing that can go in-line with the oil line, so the fluid passes through or over it? Kind of like the fan switch to the small fan on the rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 I guess it depends on the thermostat. The ones i had were literly a small barrel shaped object with wings coming off it to help mount. But as you say, ideally you'd want a sensor of some sort that can go into the feed to the cooler to take the temp. In the end i just wired them so they were on all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rob_ Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 What did you wire them to mate? Did you go with the small rad fan? Does anyone know at what temp the small rad fan is engaged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Bit of a resurection, i know... Im looking at installing a fan and thermostatic switch to my tranny cooler. PaulMac recomends fitting the thermo switch to the outside of the hot side of the tranny cooler. Hows this fixed on? Just literally bolted to it? Will wind chill or ambient temp not affect the operating parameters of the switch? ie: at 100 mph, would the wind chill cool the termostat enough so as not to engage the fan? Rob i first stripped the paint from the area of the cooler the stat was going and mounted it with heat transfer paste and cable ties simple as that, i had to play about a bit with them as there were differences between the actuall oil temp and the switching point for the stat, i settled on a 60 degree stat (RS part number 331-540 cost about £2.50) this gave an actuall switching point of 80 degrees, its all been on nearly a year and works great, the first thing you really need is a tranny temp gauge so you know whats happening, wind chill is not an issue as the switch is mounted outside the ducting and besides at 100mph there will be so much air moving through the cooler you will not need the fan, good ducting is absolutely essential i did mine with 1mm sheet ally and foil ducting tape, sat in traffic is when the fan comes on and again this must be ducted. You can get thermostats that will go direct in the oil flow but the ones i looked at were capillary type ones which are a bit slow to react and the capillary tube itself is delicate and prone to snaping with vibration, pic is my first cooler the second was mounted at an angle to use the duct under the indicator, i could try and get a pic underneith showing the stat if you want one, hope all this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Paul, what size (ID) pipe and what spec unions (-6?, 1/2BSP? etc) did you use on the cooler set-up? Any info much appreciated. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Paul, what size (ID) pipe and what spec unions (-6?, 1/2BSP? etc) did you use on the cooler set-up? Any info much appreciated. Cheers. used 10mm ID pipe all the way through this is the size of the steel pipes coming off the cooler so no point using anything bigger, the pipes you see on the pic are what came with the cooler they are nothing special and had to be reduced down, make sure the hose you get is up to the job get the supplier to check its spec with you and dont be bullsh*ted that "yeah mate that will be fine", i got mine from the local motorsport shop (road & stage, morecambe) it is rated for oil and (i think) up to 130 C, pic is pocket for temp sensor, just a bog standard 1/2" black iron tee (plumbers merchant) with 10mm hose tails, hope this is of help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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