Bob Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 ... to then knock a con rod and die 2 months ago, it came out of the garage about 6 weeks ago and lo and behold it has happened again just 6-7 weeks from having the same work being done. . . . they are both Turbo'd cars and ive been told this is the source of all problems. If that was all from the same garage/mechanic, I think I've just found your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Yeah,the 3SGTE engine is pretty bulletproof. Its not an MR2 fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I saw one of the newer M5s run in the 12's at Santa Pod - totally standard apparently. The older style E34 ones are nice enough but miles behind the current one in dynamics and performance. http://www.bmwm5.com/models/e34/alper.jpg VS http://www.bmwm5.com/models/e39/nym5fram.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I would never do up a 3S-GTE engine, new short motor is the only answer. I have yet to see a good recon. The M5, my mate rick had one, the engine died @ 45,000 miles so he got shod rather than fixed it. I think his was about 2001 or 2002. Supra has the best engine by far, buy a good car from a well rated seller, look after it, the guys in here will help you with all the advice, and be the coolest thing on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 You can always rely on people's neglect and tight fistedness to destroy a good engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Ian: Yes i did, but i was told that all it takes is for the crankshaft to be 1mm out or slightly unbalanced and thats it it will screw things. well, yeah! the general idea with a rebuild is NOT to have anything inbalanced or out of alignment id say find a new garage mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 If you find that a MRT is costing you a pretty penny to run, you can't afford to run a V8 M5. Big heavy cars with crap brakes, eat tyres and clutches and double vanos on each cylinder bank. You really ought to by an M5 with an extended BMW warrantee, which you can renew every year. BMW have just put the prices up on these though. A chap on the other forum has bills for £15,000 for the last 12 months- luckily for him most of it was covered under that expensive warrantee, which can't be renewed when the car reaches 100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Man Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I agree with Gaz on affordable issue, all performance car let alone super car cost a lot to run so be prepare and have some cash reserve. The M5 is about 300kg more than the supra according to supercar.net, 0-60 for supra is 5.0s where M5 is 4.8s so on paper M5 is heavy but because of the extra power it gain acceleration on supra? Crap brake may be as I never have a BMW m5 but the jap spec brake is pretty poor compare to the UK spec too. BMW have engine problem so FSH with BMW warranty is a must where supra engine is bullet proof until we starting to add stuff to it better compare a stock M5 with a stock supra here or else single turbo and BPU kick in and there is no return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasonc Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I had a drive of the M5 this weekend and found it nice, but much different from my MR2 T in power delivery i mean. So i guess i'm going to have to go out in or be taken out in a Supra TT (Any Volunteers - Am in Manchester Area ). I'm so confussed of what to go for now as i liked the M5 but didn't find it very aggressive in the sence of the way it delivered the power. But i'm guessing that is due to the weight of the car. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I had a drive of the M5 this weekend and found it nice, but much different from my MR2 T in power delivery i mean. So i guess i'm going to have to go out in or be taken out in a Supra TT (Any Volunteers - Am in Manchester Area ). I'm so confussed of what to go for now as i liked the M5 but didn't find it very aggressive in the sence of the way it delivered the power. But i'm guessing that is due to the weight of the car. Jason Did you switch it on the higher power full BHP mode? Normally it's restricted. Saw this on Top Gear by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npotts Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Hi jason Im in cheshire if you fancy a go out in my TT? I havent been in an M5 so cant compare the power delivery, but the TT's is pretty aggressive I would say... Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I'd think any turbo would feel a lot quicker (harsher?) than a big torquey V8 or other NA car - even one's that are as (more) powerful than the Supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Did you switch it on the higher power full BHP mode? Normally it's restricted. Saw this on Top Gear by the way! I dont think hes not talking about the new model... just the one that 'only' has 400bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npotts Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah Id be surprised if he meant the new one, as they are rare as rocking horse sh*t and cost about 60k I think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasonc Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 supRo: Yes i changed it into SPORT mode which does make a differance. npotts: I would love to go out in yours. I'll PM you to try and arrange when your avilable. Thanks Mate !! tbourner: To be honest i don't think the M5 has that much torque for a V8, from what i've seen, it has 369 lb/ft and 400bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 With the supra is good excuse to exclude my in laws when ever they are around but I am thinking more and more about starting my family where push chair and comfortable ride may have to come first. The rough ride of the supra is slowly doing my girlfriend in the head Our 11 month old (well a year on Thursday the 9th) loves my car, or is really bored with it. When he's awake, he's looking though the gap in the two seats, the other 90% of the time he's asleep.. The misses just got rid of her Hyndai Coupe and got a new shape Mondeo.. The boot on that is amazing.. She didn't want to sell, but unless we took the two cars and sent our luggage on ahead, we couldn't go anywhere for more then a few hours!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 tbourner: To be honest i don't think the M5 has that much torque for a V8, from what i've seen, it has 369 lb/ft and 400bhp. No but I meant it's a flatter curve - on torque and power - so there's no big bumps that make it feel like it's going faster. Also I suppose the weight and size of it and it being a luxury car rather than a sportscar make it 'seem' slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npotts Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 npotts: I would love to go out in yours. I'll PM you to try and arrange when your avilable. Thanks Mate !! No problem mate, just keep our fingers crossed its dry or its tricky to really show the true power of the thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasonc Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 npotts: Fingers, more like hands. It's always shitty weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 i have quite a lot of experience driving the m5 the 400bhp 2000(x) plate model it is a very fast car lots of power right through the range. m5 vs supra. well i am reaching similar speeds on my roads in my decat uk spec 350bhp(?) but i think the m5 has the edge .till i get the boost controller on am running 0.9 bar, at the moment the m5 is miles better handling than the supra which has bilstein eibach set up. although i guess its down to the 19" wheels.ride goes to the m5 no comparison. i am sure the supra will be fair quicker at bpu as m5s seem to acheive about 110mph after the standing 1/4 where supes are hitting 115+. you cant begin to compare the new model 2006 bmw sport flagship against the 13 year old toyota sports unless its in real drag mode.but as a road car no chance the new bmw is so complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The M5 is boat, the Supra should out-handle it easliy, I think your wheel setup is the cause as you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasonc Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Does anyone know what and how reliabl is both the BMW M5 & Supra TT in stock form ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npotts Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I currently own a 525i mate, and its very reliable (although somewhat different to the M5). Key with any BMWs is service history.... The Supras are extremly reliable imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Does anyone know what and how reliabl is both the BMW M5 & Supra TT in stock form ?? Probably the most reliable supercar you can buy, is that good enough for ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 my freinds m5 brand new needed a gearbox at 20k miles bit rare and doine under warrenty £6 k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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