green_dragon Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 http://www.showoffyourcar.com/cars/TOYOTA/13732.JPG Hit a tad of black ice last night, and now the car pulls to the right so badly it's not drivable:woot: :woot: So my question is, what is this and should it be bent like this? If not then how much will it cost to fix? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Um mucho bento and nope its not meant to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Jesus Christ!!! i wouldnt drive it, iirc it costs £158 for a new Lower Control Arm from Steve Manley at Oxford Inchcape Toyota! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 What did you hit after the black ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 wtf, tell the full story, that sort of damage..ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 i just had to get one of them! bent mine exactly the same! not big job tho. i bought a brand new one. but found one second hand for £117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_dragon Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Kind of embarrassing really. We went out for a curry in Notts last night with some friends, on the way home, about 11 'o clock we were on a bit of dual carrageway so I thought I'd be really clever and undertake him:idea: . Not going mega fast, about 50 (he was driving a smart car), aproached a roundabout going downhill, started braking. Nothing happened apart from ABS going crazy, no steering and no slowing down Then just glided over the bit that guides you onto roundabout:ecstatic: Oh how we laughed Then just kind of limped home feeling like a right plonker:no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 lol. unlucky. there is nothing you can do when the abs is doing its stuff. its bloody good but sometimes maybe too good. sounds like you have got off lightly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooper-supra Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 thats doesnt look too safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 If the ABS is doing its "thing" you aint got no grip with or without it you are sliding into destiny. a dented arm is getting off cheap it could be a helluva lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 can't you just bend it back? I know its not the text book way of doing things but would it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 did you get no other damage???? u lucky &£&*&%$£$%^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Stress in that type of metal would almost certainly result in failure of the component if you bent it back. Its cast metal and as such very granular. Distorting it in the fashion you have done will have caused shears across the grains. Picture those funny sand pictures you can buy move them about and the grains inside shift. same thing happens in cast metals. Weak points will be generated and only small forces will cause complete shearing across grain structure resulting in cracking and probably complete snapping of the component. Laymans terms NO you can't bend it straight again unless you use some serious heat treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 glad your ok . just put some more lead on the wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 glad your ok . just put some more lead on the wheels Nope just put a big chock of wood under the accelerator pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Is it cast though, Bry? I was always told that cast doesn't bend, it just snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 well its not machined thats for sure. Its not cast iron like you are probably thinking. It'll be a form of cast mild steel. The surface is strong with a finer grain a bit like a skin but underneath it'll be very sandy in grain structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Yeah, I've just been reading up about it. I always thought all cast ferrous was cast iron. Seems I was mistaken. I remember smashing old cast iron baths with a 14lb sledge in my dad's scrapyard. They shatter like glass if you hit them hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 try smacking an anvil directly with a hammer I'd wear safety glasses though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 you might want to get that hub carrier checked too. also allow for having the alignment redone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Could be a steel drop-forging. I'd be surprised if a cast part would take that kind of bending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 OH ok I was just generalising. Drop forging is just pressurised casting and the grain structure in both cast and forged materials are very similar albeit drop forged molecular structure will be tighter packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Whatever it is, it's f*cked -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 ...on the PLUS side, it's good to know that there is considerable margin of damage there before it gives up. Well built the Supra, I bet another make would have left you stranded with the wheel hanging at a weird angle. (I do hope that the 'bend it back' posts were meant to be funny ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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