mellonman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) well gents im just trying to see how many people are running sigle turbos with the fic, they was promoted a couple of years ago to be good for a small turbo but now that is not the case i just want to see how many are out there and what problems they have run into and gather as much information about fic map. 1.mellonman 2.black_widow87 3.stephendjp 4.chucky@war Edited June 3, 2012 by mellonman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephendjb Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I am, but it's never had more than a base map & I'm now saving for a Syvecs rather than wasting more cash on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 it's here ready to go in, I reckon i'll try it and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 I am, but it's never had more than a base map & I'm now saving for a Syvecs rather than wasting more cash on it. so have you been driving it with the fic, not sure what you mean by base map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 it's here ready to go in, I reckon i'll try it and see what happens. are you single yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 are you single yet? Not the best chat up line to use, perhaps try not being so pushy. Take him out for a meal first, somewhere intimate, then take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 Not the best chat up line to use, perhaps try not being so pushy. Take him out for a meal first, somewhere intimate, then take it from there. sounds like your jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 sounds like your jealous You bitch - how dare you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephendjb Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 so have you been driving it with the fic, not sure what you mean by base map The plan was to.take it to RyanG we've done a basic map they allows it to be driven at up to 0.8 bar but it isn't running much more than bpu power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 are you single yet? Everyone has there price matron haha. No not yet, the turbo is installed and the oil lines are all on and everything is put back together, I just haven't managed to find the time ot have my DP cut and made to fit properly. Other than that its ready for the FIC to go in, hence why I followed your other thread:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 shame not many of us in this boat, would be nice to see how people got on with it, i think i might join supra forums and see if they have many running it that might be able to shed some light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) i have done abit of research and alot of people are ditching the stock o2 as the map trim out the fuel adjustments even when you screw the o2 voltage. did your mappers do this or did they screw the o2. i can see this being a easy way to stop going lean as when single the boost you will be making will have alot more air volume at the same psi as stocks or hybrids. with my hybrids i was staying at 14.7 afr sometimes when at 0.6 boost which is too lean for that amount of boost im thinking. sorry to be a pain on this im just trying to get as much information as posible to give the mapper the best chance posible with the fic and the supra Edited November 12, 2011 by mellonman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 okay more information it seems they intecept the o2 signal which by all acounts is white and cut the singal through the fic at a set psi which would force the stock ecu into open loop so your map would have full control when on boost and still have the use of closed loop lower down, this does seem to be abit like the fic o2 screw information videos on youtube but a different approch to it and seems to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 okay have my single on now and im still getting a misfire at about 3800 - 4000 when im at about 1/2 throttle accelarating, do any of you have this? i alway thought it was something to do with the sequencial but now im single its not that. i did try this when i was sequencial that helped a little but did remove it again as didnt cure ithe fault. We have seen a couple of vehicles, including an automatic Scion xB, that had erratic misfires (especially at high load) that would go away if you bypassed the cam or crank signals so they were not intercepted by the FIC. After measuring the signals with an oscilloscope, we could see that the signals were a bit noisy, and the FIC inputs were sensitive enough that they picked up noise and sent an extra cam pulse to the ECU. The solution was to install a 2k ohm resistor with one side connected to Crank MAGI(+) and the other side connected to Crank MAGI(-). Another 2k resistor installed with one side connected to Cam1 MAGI(+) and the other side connected to Cam1 MAGI(-). None of these vehicles would stall due to this misfire, so it's not likely that this is what you are experiencing. The stalling may be due to your light load fueling, which is also related to the Injector Response Time setting. More info here: http://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php/topic,23545.0.html well it looks like i will have to try that again, somethings not right as when it happens i see the afr drop down back into early 14's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Are you really getting an AFR around 14-14.6 at WOT/peak boost? I'm sure it should be a fair bit lower than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Are you really getting an AFR around 14-14.6 at WOT/peak boost? I'm sure it should be a fair bit lower than that! no not at all mate at say a 1/2 throttle pull where the auto would change about 4500 rpm at 3800-4000 it will miss once then as it happends i see the afr at 14.1 this is not the constant reading it was 12.5-13.0 pre miss then 14.1 at the miss then back to 12.5- 13.0. i think its must be missing a crank signal so doesnt inject fuel for one crank (the miss) and so the afr goes lean due to it? it doesnt happen often only between 1/2 and 2/3 throttle, but its not right and want it sorted i wish i could tell what causes it. also to add i have changed the coils,clips,plugs. to try and pin point fault Edited December 4, 2011 by mellonman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Dude give Luke a ring at the new shop 01293 531080, he has had to play with a couple of these recently and has found a couple of starnge things, we had a single car on one the other day, He will be happy to have a chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 sweet john thanks for that i will give him a bell tomorrow, loving the single though you where right about that this turbo is no way near as laggy as i thouhgt it would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 sweet john thanks for that i will give him a bell tomorrow, loving the single though you where right about that this turbo is no way near as laggy as i thouhgt it would be Dont call before 10, lukes no early bird and sounded pretty dead today !!!! Maybe he can sort your little problem, we had another FIC with a missfire , had been loads of places and Luke sussed it need resistors soldered in to the loom, hey presto it revved right thru !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 this miss is from noise through the cam and crank singnals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted June 3, 2012 Author Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) okay some more information on this for people with any fic with a supra, after a borring standby at work was searching information about the fic again and it kept coming up with it worked better with older firmware z107 is the better one,so i went and checked what firmware i had and it was the newer z110 that can give the miss between 3500-4000 at the transition point between light and full throttle, it was also said that each toyota is a little different being some like the z104 more. after a quick drive all was well and seemed to be alot more responcive,which might have something to do why it seemed quicker when cold low down. but now it the same when hot to some up everyone with a fic check your firmware version and reflash if needed! it makes a hell of a difference, mine has been through 3 different tuners and was never picked up that it had the wrong firmware. z110 = miss at transition z107= stalls under vacuum z104= perfict bouncing afr issues when cruising/vacuum are caused by the injector responce time being out and also the fuel trims being out so that part of the map would need tweaking, this is due to the ecus fighting each other trying to compensate to get to the closed loop 14.7 afr Long cranking when hot start issues Can be over come by setting the rpm table to start at 0 then inrich the cells at around absolute air preasure 4 cells should cover it for air preasure differences. Edited May 3, 2016 by mellonman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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