francis Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hi there I took the plunge today and bought a HID kit. I asked the guy for a 9006 fitment as I've got a UK Supra but when I went to pick it up the box had 9005 stamped on it. I questioned the guy about it but he insisted that the 9005/9006 would both fit and there was no need to worry about it, so I thought i'd ask you guys.... the burner itself doesn't have any fitment markings on it, but i've taken a photo of it. There are three prongs, one small one at the top and two larger ones of the same size at the bottom. Will these fit in my UK headlights or do I need to take them back? Cheers, Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Check the dia of the bulb housing and the "O" ring size first to make sure it will push in. Cant remember the sizes. I think the 9005 is smaller than the 9006. Maybe compare it with a normal bulb. There isn't much difference between the tags on the 9005 and 9006, you could just trim the tags. Bare in mind that this could change the orientation of the bulb, on authentic HID headlights the external wire on the bulb is at the 6 '0' clock position. There're some good kits available and some crap ones, best to get a recommendation from someone on here if you need to take it back and get another one from elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 If the seller is saying it will fit both he is talking shit, it wont. On a dip beam you dont want to trimming lugs on HID, main beam is a different matter. As said there are good kits and there is rubbish. Unfortunately there are loads of kits being sold that give little or no advantage over good uprated Halogen bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Francis, the 9005 will fit the J-spec headlights but will NOT fit the UK glass headlights, as diameter of the bulb body is too small. I doubt the seller realises the UK headlights are a different fit to the J-spec headlights, as we don't have any UK cars here in HK. If you have the glass headlights you DEFINITELY need a 9006 bulb. Make sure you ask about warranty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 In my last club we did a BB from this place: http://www.superhids.com Cost including shipping was £162 each - and the supplier shipped them as "Toy lights" so no tax to pay this end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 In my last club we did a BB from this place: http://www.superhids.com Cost including shipping was £162 each - and the supplier shipped them as "Toy lights" so no tax to pay this end. That sounds incredibly cheap, it can cost that much for a set of decent bulbs, let alone the balasts etc. There were alot of very unhappy people the last time there was a sale of HID for just a little more than that on here. IMHO you get what you payfor with HID. For £80 a side I would not expect much better than halogen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovels Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 That sounds incredibly cheap, it can cost that much for a set of decent bulbs, let alone the balasts etc. There were alot of very unhappy people the last time there was a sale of HID for just a little more than that on here. IMHO you get what you payfor with HID. For £80 a side I would not expect much better than halogen Just a quick note: Thanks Terminator for the HID kit you supplied me, there the dogs bollox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 In my last club we did a BB from this place: http://www.superhids.com Cost including shipping was £162 each - and the supplier shipped them as "Toy lights" so no tax to pay this end. I have purchased mine from them too and they are fine, no quality control issues and they fit my car perfectly. Price is excellent and delivery from the states took only 3 days. I would recommend them to anyone. Originally Posted by Terminator That sounds incredibly cheap, it can cost that much for a set of decent bulbs, let alone the balasts etc. There were alot of very unhappy people the last time there was a sale of HID for just a little more than that on here. IMHO you get what you payfor with HID. For £80 a side I would not expect much better than halogen Prices can and do come down you know... Especially when talking about USA suppliers because they have more competition to deal with. Take Dusty and MPV for instance. Ask for a quote on a set of wheels. Now ask for a quote from a UK supplier and spot the difference. Dusty's quote will be considerably cheaper now does that mean his wheels will be crap compared to the UK suppliers ? No it just means he has more competitive pricing for a number of reasons. One of the main ones is not having to pay UK VAT. Would it make you happier if SuperHID tacked on the extra £28 for VAT to bring the total up to £190. High price does not always equate into quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 whats the quality of the LIGHT like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Dusty explained recently that it is now illegal for US suppliers to sell aftermarket HID kits, either in the US or abroad and that he can no longer supply the kits he use to sell because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Did he mean selling within the States or exporting as well ? *whoops, I did not read your reply fully... Disregard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 whats the quality of the LIGHT like? Well I was running PIA/DIP PIAA Platinum Super White before the HID's and the difference is instantly noticable. Mind you I am running the 6k bulbs so they will not be as good as the 4k HID's. Saying that though they were miles better then the PIAA's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Did he mean selling within the States or exporting as well ? *whoops, I did not read your reply fully... Disregard this. Yes both, which is why he can't supply member here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 From what I can gather in my quick search it is not illegal for USA suppliers to sell to other countries. Is the conversion kit street legal? Please note that aftermarket (non-factory) Xenon HID headlight conversions are not legal for use on public roads or highways in the U.S.. For our U.S. customers, we will only sell products or parts for applications that we determine not to be in violation of U.S. laws or motor vehicle code. For customers outside the U.S., it is the responsibility of the customer to check local laws and regulations to ensure that their application is not illegal. We do not endorse any illegal or noncompliant use of our products. Buyers assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or illegal use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I have purchased mine from them too and they are fine, no quality control issues and they fit my car perfectly. Price is excellent and delivery from the states took only 3 days. I would recommend them to anyone. Prices can and do come down you know... Especially when talking about USA suppliers because they have more competition to deal with. Take Dusty and MPV for instance. Ask for a quote on a set of wheels. Now ask for a quote from a UK supplier and spot the difference. Dusty's quote will be considerably cheaper now does that mean his wheels will be crap compared to the UK suppliers ? No it just means he has more competitive pricing for a number of reasons. One of the main ones is not having to pay UK VAT. Would it make you happier if SuperHID tacked on the extra £28 for VAT to bring the total up to £190. High price does not always equate into quality. I presume we are looking at the cost of pair not a single side. Try £500 for good quality and that has come down too from over £650 last summer. You get what you pay for. A lot of cheap kits give a great HID colour look, but the beam penetration and pattern is poor and actually does not give much better illumination than good quality halogen. The only good kits are made by companies who make OEM HID for the new car market. The rest are just second rate. I did months of research before I got my lights. I found that the HID market was flooded with produce as it was a big earner. Lots of kits were tested and found to give very little illumination improvement over 30% brighter halogen bulbs. A lot were really made to give a blue or purple bling look to the car, not good night time vision in all condition. There used to be a very good HID kit sold in the USA but when they changed the law, they stopped supplying them. None of the others in the US were really rated for night driving. I was advised by a very well respect US trader not bother with the kits sold in the US as they really fitted into the “for looks” not function category. I hope I am wrong and you have found a winner, but when good quality HID bulbs can cost as much as these complete kits I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 To each his own. I find that mine are well worth the money I paid and would fail to see how the quality could possibly get any better. Certainly not more then double the price better if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 To each his own. I find that mine are well worth the money I paid and would fail to see how the quality could possibly get any better. Certainly not more then double the price better if at all. Can you remember the HID brand name? My guess is they'll be Taiwan or Korean made. When I was looking for HID's I tested a lot of different brands in my car before deciding which to buy, these varied from around £180 to around £300 a set. Most of the cheaper ones are made in either Taiwan or Korea and the quality of the components and performance was not as good, I also couldn't get any warranty on the ballast packs which was a worry for me as I've heard of quite a few going and having to be replaced ( I think I remember Matt H saying he had a problem with his.) I finally went for a set that was at the higher end of the price range, these were Japanese made and used GENUINE Hella ballasts. Many of the cheaper brands claim they use Phillips or other German made ballasts but they are infact fakes made locally with german branding added. I also got a 1 year warranty on the ballasts, not very long but better than nothing. All I'd say is be very careful when buying an HID kit as there is a lot of poor quality ones around, if you can, test them on your car before buying, as I agree with T with HID's you usually get what you pay for. I have supplied quite a few members with the HID kit I found to be best value for money here, delivered price to UK works out around £310, the exact same brand is sold in UK for over £450 undelivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Fair enough. Mine came with a limited manufacture warranty, which is 90/days on the ballast and 60/days for the capsules. Knock on wood, nothing has blown up or self destructed as of yet. I cannot remember the HID brand name, I will see if I still have the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Ok the kit is made by Bohmen HID a german company. Some of the blurb Bohmen HID conversions are fully up to German industry standards using the latest in machining equipment combined with clean room and computer-aided design. All Bohmen HID Lighting systems are TUV Certified direct plug in kits, with no modifications to the headlight assembly required. Bohmen HID bulbs are burned in, and tested by the manufacturer, and all units are beam pattern corrected and tested for accuracy. All Bohmen HID system installations are 100% reversible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I guess what matters is you are happy with what you have. If they meet your needs and last and give value for money, then you are on a winner. I just posted as I have heard of so many people shelling out £180 to £200 and have been very dissapointed. I want people to stop and think before they dive in. BTW the price I have quoted were for the same kits than Nic can get but sold over here at UK prices. When I first looked last year Demontwits were selling what I have in my car for £650 + PP. I did find them on another UK site for over £700:shrug: so it always pays to shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Just a quick note: Thanks Terminator for the HID kit you supplied me, there the dogs bollox! I like them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I am looking for HIDs for my car. Want to get the best ones out there from a quality point of view. Looking for 4500K or thereabouts...not really interested in BLUE lights...more interested in functionality. Termi & Nic - are your units that you supply the same, is it just a matter of price between you two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovels Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I am looking for HIDs for my car. Want to get the best ones out there from a quality point of view. Looking for 4500K or thereabouts...not really interested in BLUE lights...more interested in functionality. Termi & Nic - are your units that you supply the same, is it just a matter of price between you two? When I got some lights from Termi I was also worried about the 'blueness' of the lights, Termi recommended the 6200K which I went for. I am welled impressed with these lights, they do look slightly blue when you look at them, but when you're driving in the dark they don't look blue at all. Compared to my mates 'proper' HIDS on his Honda S2000 they do look more blue, but not so blue it looks pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I am looking for HIDs for my car. Want to get the best ones out there from a quality point of view. Looking for 4500K or thereabouts...not really interested in BLUE lights...more interested in functionality. Termi & Nic - are your units that you supply the same, is it just a matter of price between you two?Same lights same price. They dont make the 4500 kits anymore. The 6500 look like the latest Merc HIDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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