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Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the world?


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Slightly off topic, since they wrecked part of it they want my company to make another 30 stainless steel bellows sections to replace damaged ones :)

Now normally that would be great but since we made the originals we had a small explosion of our own (Buncefield Oil terminal;)) and don't have the machines or space as we had to relocate :(

 

Bit of a bummer as there would be even better money in it now considering the situation Cern are in.

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So instead of putting all that money into this, couldn't they solve some of the world's financial problems, or would that be asking too much?

 

I don't know how this has cost so far, but I bet Iceland wouldn't mind seeing some of it (and I don't mean the cheap food store either!).

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So instead of putting all that money into this, couldn't they solve some of the world's financial problems, or would that be asking too much?

 

Well they helped solve my financial problems ;)

 

The amount of cash spent on the bloody thing is silly, as you say they could have done far more good with it.

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So instead of putting all that money into this, couldn't they solve some of the world's financial problems, or would that be asking too much?

 

I don't know how this has cost so far, but I bet Iceland wouldn't mind seeing some of it (and I don't mean the cheap food store either!).

 

Sounds a good idea on the surface, but I wouldn't think that kind of thing does much good in the long run. People often say about arts and cultural spending, "Why don't we just spend the money on more wards for NHS hospitals?" Could do, but diverting spending from science, arts and culture would make our environment a duller place. Very harsh for those waiting for an NHS operation, and those people have my sympathies, but other areas of society must continue functioning despite severe problems elsewhere.

 

In hindsight, the credit crunch was going to happen sooner or later. People got too used to getting easy credit and easy loans. The "never-never" has arrived.

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Sounds a good idea on the surface, but I wouldn't think that kind of thing does much good in the long run. People often say about arts and cultural spending, "Why don't we just spend the money on more wards for NHS hospitals?" Could do, but diverting spending from science, arts and culture would make our environment a duller place. Very harsh for those waiting for an NHS operation, and those people have my sympathies, but other areas of society must continue functioning despite severe problems elsewhere.

 

In hindsight, the credit crunch was going to happen sooner or later. People got too used to getting easy credit and easy loans. The "never-never" has arrived.

 

 

Yes I know what you're saying, but those things don't really have the 'fear factor' of destroying the world built in to them. ;)

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It's wonderful to think about the money that's already been spent on science, medicine, and technology to give us a good life... And to create the medicines and vaccines for those who have preventable diseases...

 

Exactly! Sometimes scientific research doesn't hold immediate and obvious benefits, but scientists need to keep chipping away at the boundaries in order to make progress.

 

True, armageddon brought about by some dudes mucking around beneath the French/Swiss border would a bad thing, but IMO the chances of that happening are infinitesimally slim. (I hope I'm right! :D )

 

Their research might, just might, pave the way for a clean reliable source of energy at some point in the future.

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The potential to discover what happened at the big bang plus lots of other potential discoveries that have far reaching scientific benefit which would far outweigh the cost.

 

If something should be scrapped then personally i would ditch the Olympic games, that is a giant money pit with no real benefit to us.

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Exactly! Sometimes scientific research doesn't hold immediate and obvious benefits,

 

I think it provides huge benefits already.... lets say every ten pounds that is spent is going into say 10 businesses which through new orders, employment, stock purchases etc is distributing this income to 100 other businesses who are repeating the cycle etc etc.

 

Well they helped solve my financial problems ;)

 

 

I rest my case

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An odd thing to post considering most people know that:

 

1. The world hasn't been destroyed.

 

2. The collider is broken so isn't capable of doing anything right now.

 

Might have worked well when they were just turning it on though, shame these links weren't around then... oh, what's this?

 

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2100051&postcount=63

 

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2102701&postcount=69

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It's wonderful to think that the some organisations are spending this money on cern, when people are dying of starvation and preventable diseases in africa. It shows us just how important science really is.

 

 

Acceptable losses in the face of what science achieves in the total. If we didn't bother with advances of science we wouldn't have ended up in houses we'd still be in caves, tents etc. Bad thing/good thing? You've got a car and central heating I assume? You tell me!!

The infantile death rate in sophisticated countries has dropped exponentially since the scientific age came on strong, the very lives you refer to in the likes of africa had the "privileged" nations not made their advancements they'd also be suffering. Seems to me that people forget that we ourselves have only banished the sort of fatality that others in the world experience very recently.

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Yeah I'm deadly serious here, Science has the courage to invest in itself, while people die from basic illnesses. gogogogo science. It takes clarity of purpose and looking at the bigger picture. Science makes sense, and in the end we will all reap the benefit, even though there is no cure for stupidity or death.

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