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I dont know that much about ecu's or mapping im currently learning from a book by Ben Strader and thinking of joining up to the online course on efi university, I've spoken to a few companies in the USA about Haltech ecu's over there they are highly regarded, the actual owner of Haltech runs a Supra, They provide the harnesses aswell, If you want to find out more about Haltech I highly recomended Speaking to Cassandra at velocity motorsports in Texas, Cassandra is a mapper and is also highly regarded for her skills, She swears that the software for the Haltechs are a dream to work with, she mentioned some thing that i've never heard before like a special way to map or a map that I cant remember the word it began with a V? apparently its really hard to do but with the haltech they can do it quite easily.+

 

Thor racing also sells them.

 

 

http://www.maximumvelocitymotorsports.com/

 

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=96&detail=true

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Problem with haltech is getting factory tech support in the UK. I am a member of the Haltech technical forum, and I see a load of worrying posts where people don't get the factory support they need. Spend the extra on a Motec. Put crudely, if the price difference between the best and cheapest ECU's bother you, then you shouldn't be doing a single conversion in the first place, as you will find the ecu cost and mapping is incidental in the grand scheme of things. Sounds harsh, but IMO it's a fact.

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Problem with haltech is getting factory tech support in the UK. I am a member of the Haltech technical forum, and I see a load of worrying posts where people don't get the factory support they need. Spend the extra on a Motec. Put crudely, if the price difference between the best and cheapest ECU's bother you, then you shouldn't be doing a single conversion in the first place, as you will find the ecu cost and mapping is incidental in the grand scheme of things. Sounds harsh, but IMO it's a fact.

 

Were is this fantastic technical support from Motec?

 

Is it only via e-mail or is there a forum available?

 

Most of my info has came from the efi forum, or various efi books and sites,

 

Unless regarding hardware issues (I'd hope there wouldn't be any) I dont see why you would need technical support from the manufacturers, more so if you dont intend mapping the car yourself,

 

If you do intend mapping yourself then its just a case of getting used to the software, and having a sound knowledge of efi cars, most ecu's seem to have similar features, some more than others

 

If you want the best out of your setup and a problem free install its best to have an underlying knowlegde of what parts make up the Supra, most of which you can find on here,

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Just ring them up, or there are several forums that offer support. I have found there support second to none.

 

 

Which ones? There never seems to be any problems with the motec in any forums I have seen other than cost or configuration, maybe I have just not found the right forums

 

Any off the top of your head where there is a direct contact with a motec specialist or motec tech?

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Yes I visit that quite regularly

 

The support you speak of is no more then hardware technical then or would they be prepared to go through a full map with you(Not that you would want to)?

 

My point being that although the motec has countless documents of info, they dont really teach you anything new from the physics of efi

So as long as the hardware is reliable and capable then the ecu choice is pretty vast

 

Any technical problems to do with the hardware would hopefully be sorted by the supplier, as they themselves would have to go about returning the product

 

I think Haltech and the like would suit any efi car, as long as you had the foundations of how that car was built for the basemap

 

Your choice then comes down to cost, and all the higher level ecu's are around the same price anyway so I reckon thats why most go for the motec, its been used and proven reliable over here,

 

If you are doing a full build on an engine and completely changing the characteristics you shouldnt be bounded by the term plug and play(they never are anyway)

 

Your choice is pretty much piggy - mid level - or high level, of which choice is vast

 

Before you do anything though, if you are not mapping the car yourself, choose your mapper(they may not be comfortable configuring/mapping an ecu of your choice - it could take more time, money and your open to more errors/problems as they learn the various features of that ecu)

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Sorry, no, he's still out of the UK and I am not able to reach him.

 

Let me know when you have got all the info. Thx.

 

 

 

 

Guys , anyone else who can supply any other ecus that will run vvti engine while still keeping drive by wire and who can supply plug and play loom with base map for supra that has bpu upgrade like FMIC and exhaust ?

 

Thanks.

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OK, finally got some prices. a brand new, UK sourced M800 is £1900, the VVTi cam control option enabled is £225, and the fly by wire throttle option is £260. A new plug and play adaptor by Motec is about £500, so there would be VERY minimal wiring needed. If purchased from me I can supply witha VVti manual base map FOC. Above prices are plus VAT and delivery.

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OK, finally got some prices. a brand new, UK sourced M800 is £1900, the VVTi cam control option enabled is £225, and the fly by wire throttle option is £260. A new plug and play adaptor by Motec is about £500, so there would be VERY minimal wiring needed. If purchased from me I can supply witha VVti manual base map FOC. Above prices are plus VAT and delivery.

 

£2885 +vat :shock:

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Hi Chris

 

I have a Valcon Plus VCam kit pro (HKS variable intake cam and controller). I haven't installed it yet as still waiting to get my single turbo and fueling bits. Haven't decided on an ECU yet. Would I still need the VVTI function from the MOTEC ECU, as the HKS unit allows corrections in 500rpm increments (I think from the japanese translated instructions). Mine is also tiptronic, so I guess the auto box complicates things?

 

Mark

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Couldn't answer that, you may be able to use the HKS thing to run the VVTi stuff, but i think it would make more sense, and reduce the rats nest if you used a Motec for everything. The stock ecu would have to remain to run the auto box though. Manuals make this sort of thing a lot simpler :)

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