Schtuv Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 The lino in my kitchen is covered in claw marks from cats, and the carpet in the bathroom strikes me as impractical (due to getting wet) - time for some DIY floor tiling The only problem is I've not tried this before. Hm. Some questions which I'm hoping someone can help me with; - I've got a level wooden floor under the current coverings (it's a fairly new house). Should I stick tiles directly on to that? - I've seen the tools available in B&Q (diamond blades, tile clipping pliers, etc.). Should a left handed monkey be able to cut curves in tiles to go round bathroom fittings with these, or is it a very skilled task? Once I've got answers to those things, hopefully I'll get on and JFDI Any other advice is appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I'd a hardboard layer first, at least if it all goes tits up you can can just lift that, else you'll be trying to scrape mortar off your floorboards. You need a little saw to cut curves, I've tried "clipping" but I always get it near perfect then snip a big chunk off ruining everything. You can get very nice laminate flooring that simulates tiles, far easier to install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probrox Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 What sort of tiles are you planning on laying, ie. vinyl, ceramic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schtuv Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 What sort of tiles are you planning on laying, ie. vinyl, ceramic. I'll go for ceramic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schtuv Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 I'd a hardboard layer first, at least if it all goes tits up you can can just lift that, else you'll be trying to scrape mortar off your floorboards. You need a little saw to cut curves, I've tried "clipping" but I always get it near perfect then snip a big chunk off ruining everything. You can get very nice laminate flooring that simulates tiles, far easier to install. Hardboard makes sense, but I don't want to raise the floor too much. I can just see myself a few years down the line trying to take that stuff up! I've looked at (and helped put down) laminate at friends places, but it's just not quite 'right' for me, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Think about lifting the sink and toilet, laying tiles, then placing back down over them. A lot quicker and easier than trying to make tiles fit round them..My old man decided to tell me this after I'd done the bloody thing:taped: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat supra Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I'd a hardboard layer first, at least if it all goes tits up you can can just lift that, else you'll be trying to scrape mortar off your floorboards. You need a little saw to cut curves, I've tried "clipping" but I always get it near perfect then snip a big chunk off ruining everything. You can get very nice laminate flooring that simulates tiles, far easier to install. SORRY MATE YOU DONT USE HARD BOARD NEED HALF INC MARINE PLY HARD BOARD IS CRAP WHEN IT GETS WET IT JUST BRAKES UP, YOU WILL ALSO NEED A FLEXIE TILE ADHESIVE AND FLEXIE GROUT IF YOU NEED ANYTHINK GIVE ME A PM OR SOMETHIN AS I WORK IN A TILE SHOP THANKS LEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Is your tile shop near an airport? He's not making a wet-room, it's some bathroom floor tiles, laid with waterproof mortar and grout. You may work in a tile shop, I know someone who works in a porn-shop but it doesn't make him the worlds best shag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 You cant tile on hardboard, if it was me doing it id pull up the floor boards and replace with 18mm marine ply (Maybe ad a few noggins round the edge) then tile ontop of that with flexi adhesive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat supra Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Is your tile shop near an airport? He's not making a wet-room, it's some bathroom floor tiles, laid with waterproof mortar and grout. You may work in a tile shop, I know someone who works in a porn-shop but it doesn't make him the worlds best shag. nice one mate what do you put in the adhesive mabe water, when you put the adhesive on to the hard board the wood will expand and brake up the the adhesive drys and will separate from the wood also if he ever has a leak the floor will be fooked also grouts are water resistent (sorry about spelling)means they will not wash away but water can still get through any more questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossack Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 SORRY MATE YOU DONT USE HARD BOARD NEED HALF INC MARINE PLY HARD BOARD IS CRAP WHEN IT GETS WET IT JUST BRAKES UP, YOU WILL ALSO NEED A FLEXIE TILE ADHESIVE AND FLEXIE GROUT IF YOU NEED ANYTHINK GIVE ME A PM OR SOMETHIN AS I WORK IN A TILE SHOP THANKS LEE 100% correct and make sure the ply is well screwed down, the more screws the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schtuv Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 OK - thanks for all the advice guys. I think I know how to tackle this now Just got to wait to service the car, get some tiles with the money left, and book a couple of days off work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossack Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 ps remember to use a floor trowel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Make sure the marine ply is reasonably thick. The joker who tiled our kitchen used 3mm ply and there is movement that has broken all the so called flexible grout. I'll have to have the whole lot redone at some point...... It's only 2 years since we had it all done!! H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 In my experience ceramic tiles on a wooden floor are a recipe for trouble. I would never tile with ceramics on anything other than a concrete floor. Maybe there is a flexible adhesive and grout nowadays? In the past even a 3/4 inch ply floor over a 1/2 pine boarded floor on 8 inch timbers expanded and contracted enough in a bathroom for the tiles to loosen. I swore never to ceramic tile on wood ever again after that expensive fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 nice one mate what do you put in the adhesive mabe water, when you put the adhesive on to the hard board the wood will expand and brake up the the adhesive drys and will separate from the wood also if he ever has a leak the floor will be fooked also grouts are water resistent (sorry about spelling)means they will not wash away but water can still get through any more questions I was just winding you up 'cos of the caps lock thing, but actually I did once use some waterproof adhesive. It didn't require water, but once open to the air had a short working time and got very hot as it went off. I had a few spill dobs due to my cack-handedness with tiling and they would not budge, absolutely rock hard and unmovable even with an orbital sander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat supra Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I was just winding you up 'cos of the caps lock thing, but actually I did once use some waterproof adhesive. It didn't require water, but once open to the air had a short working time and got very hot as it went off. I had a few spill dobs due to my cack-handedness with tiling and they would not budge, absolutely rock hard and unmovable even with an orbital sander.[/QU didnt realize the caps was on sorry sounds like that could of be a epoxie bugger to clean of lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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