caseys Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Anyone got any ideas how much it'd cost to fit ABS to a JZA80? Also is it even worth considering? I ask this because eventually I'd like to try fitting a turbo kit to it, playing around with it and getting some knowledge of the car, I know this might seem like a very steep slope. But I need ABS if I want to go talk to the nice people at racelogic about getting TC put in it. If so, anyone got any pointers on who I should go talk to about this? Or would most of you say I'd be better of selling it and getting a TT with it all in when I can? Cheers Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 RL offer kits for non ABS cars too.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted March 13, 2004 Author Share Posted March 13, 2004 Doh! Their website didn't state that I think, or me viewing it at 3am half asleep doesn't really help. ABS though will also help stop me flat-spotting a pair of fronts everytime someones doesn't use their wing mirrors and pulls out in front of me like they did 6 weeks ago. It's not fun paying £300 for another new pair of 225/40/18's when the current pair were 4 weeks old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Originally posted by caseys Their website didn't state that I think I've just looked and found this: http://www.racelogic.co.uk/traction.htm Will it fit my car ? The easiest car to fit Racelogic Traction Control is an electronically fuel injected car with ABS. If the car does not have ABS then special wheel speed sensors sensors have to be fitted. If the car is not electronically fuel injected, then the system requires a coil interface unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 You still have to fit sensors in the hubs with the RL kit , Matt H looked(!!) at doing this but felt it wasnt economically viable !!! Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Originally posted by caseys Doh! Their website didn't state that I think, or me viewing it at 3am half asleep doesn't really help. ABS though will also help stop me flat-spotting a pair of fronts everytime someones doesn't use their wing mirrors and pulls out in front of me like they did 6 weeks ago. It's not fun paying £300 for another new pair of 225/40/18's when the current pair were 4 weeks old... Ever heard of cadence breaking or just learning how to drive the car to its abilities , just hitting the anchors as hard as you can is not the fastest way to stop in a non ABS car , you lose all control and stoping distances go out the window , you need some feel as to what the brakes are doing , personally i dont like ABS at all !!!! Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted March 14, 2004 Author Share Posted March 14, 2004 Admittedly yes, there is cadence braking, engine braking, unfortunately when he pulls out in front of you with about 40mph odd difference with about 5 metres distance, I didn't really think in my head all this that I should apply. Not many people pull out into the fast lane on an A road at 30mph to avoid the filtering in traffic in the slow lane, so it's not something I'm normally looking out for. But admittedly, I've learnt my lesson. Unfortunately others haven't in not pulling out, or the good equation speed = distance/time, they just look for a visible gap one second, not checking how quickly it's diminishing. The speed sensors quote from Racelogic is literally meaning to fit ABS, where you do fit speed sensors to the hubs? As that's what a basic ABS system has isn't it? So hence my question about ABS so I've got I suppose the best for braking and deceleration, unless TC can act instead of an ABS circuit better for braking? Sorry, next time I'll explain I suppose why I'm asking what I'm asking about. Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by caseys The speed sensors quote from Racelogic is literally meaning to fit ABS, where you do fit speed sensors to the hubs? As that's what a basic ABS system has isn't it? So hence my question about ABS so I've got I suppose the best for braking and deceleration, unless TC can act instead of an ABS circuit better for braking? Basicaly the racelogic requires a signal to determine that the wheels are spinning at the same rate This can, for example, be achieved by taking a reading from the wheel 'bolts' This means fitting a bell / bracket to each wheel - with the sensor attached (and accurately positioned Now if the sensors cost £250, each fitting (which has to be individually nade) say £60?=£240 Then the wiring round the car then wiring back from each wheel to the RLTC ECUand fitting = 8 hours(?)@min £30 an hour aprox=£320 RLTC unit £525 (from us!) So - you can have your system for £1325 min IMHO Go buy yourself a car that has it first - a TT for instance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Originally posted by dude Ever heard of cadence breaking or just learning how to drive the car to its abilities , just hitting the anchors as hard as you can is not the fastest way to stop in a non ABS car , you lose all control and stoping distances go out the window , you need some feel as to what the brakes are doing , personally i dont like ABS at all !!!! Dude:flame Dev I'm with Dude on this one, all my cars have ABS and in the all the 500,000+ miles I have driven with ABS I have only felt it opperate twice in anger. I have played with it to see if it is working, but never rely on it. I guess it is a bit easier having learn to drive and spent my early years of driving in cars with no ABS. Anticipation and feel are essential in braking. I guess my years of biking, before ever sitting in a car, taught me to expect the unexpected, if it is stupid and dangerous you can bet some daft bugger in a car will do it. Back to the original point, you want to fit a turbo kit, forget it, the cheaper option is buy a TT and you get ABS sensors for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted March 14, 2004 Author Share Posted March 14, 2004 Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'm going to have to assess what I want to do, it's all going to be determined as well on how much my insurance drops by when I've got my 2nd year's no claims and how much my NA is worth at the end of the year. If not I'll watch very closely how Dangerous Brian's going to do with his supercharging project. Ta Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 With a TT, u got to be careful, u never know a turbo may go just after you get it, i mean they are all getting more miles under there belt now! If you like your car, id have to say watch supercharger route, to assist with your braking, get wider wheels, best rubber, and better brakes which dont fade, but wont lock your wheels up second you put your foot on them! Unfortunatly i cant say you wont need RLTC...i want it after my little off..... Out of question is there any TC you can get that dont require ABS??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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