JohnA Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I think if hes been told hes getting a summons by the cop, that kinda qualifies as the verbal! ... Yep, it does. Next step is that they have up to 6 months to send the court papers etc. I've been through this, only they had clocked me on the video etc (over 110 if you wonder) They were quite persistent in pursuing the case (as were the court and other officials) but in the end I wiggled myself out scott-free. Used an extreme version of 'non-cooperation', providing no details, feedback or response whatsoever (but covering my ass at the same time in case it got ugly) In the end there is a limited amount of resources that can be thrown while pursuing such 'crimes' so if it drags long enough they decide to let it go and proceed to the next victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Shouldn't this be in members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 ...ooooops, I thought it already was.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Gutted for you Lee. Guess you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wonder what lucky pills the guy they were tailing was on? Must have ben laughing all the way home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Did the Policeman get you to sign anything at the side of the road? Also bare in mind, that you can safely take 10% off the speed you think you were doing as GPS speed is the only acurate method...so if you really were doing 120 then obviously thats 109 mph it may be that they clocked you much lower, so could make some difference! I know what you mean about driving late at night empty motorway etc, everyone does it including the magistrate and the Policeman that pulled you up..you sound a responsible sort of fella..so tell them what you told us..it may help i dunno..hope you get away with it, or they forget it..would be nice fingers crossed for you mate! Si (-: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Just to add does anyone know the web address for that website that Nick Freeman put up? Does it cost money to join..is it any help in this case..worth a browse if so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 This one? http://www.keepondriving.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 do they not have to track you for a mile and get your average speed...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B4ATY Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Check this out. Means that the particular type of speed measuring device must be approved by parliament. This guy has shown that most new "traps" have not. Good luck! http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149235&command=displayContent&sourceNode=149218&contentPK=14847745&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Tailing someone else doing 110 yeah right. More like doing over 100 themselves to get home when you when past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gzaerojon Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Tailing someone else doing 110 yeah right. More like doing over 100 themselves to get home when you when past. surely if they're saying you were going faster then 100 but they don't know how fast, that's just guessing?? don't they have to record the exact speed to be able to prosecute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 There never seems to be a rock solid rule to fines or bans. Really depends on the location, weather, police person and or courts. I had a friend done for doing 103mph down the Motorway. He went to court and got a fine and 2 week ban. He di have soome other points to. Other people have got of with just points and fines. Unfortunately, its a case of wait and see and as others have said, lay it on that you need a car for getting to work if it comes to that. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Surely this raises another question.... if this goes to court, how can he be expected to plead guilty or not guilty if no-one has actually recorded the speed he was travelling at? And it's already been said, I thought they had to follow you for a short time anyway? Hence them saying they were following someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Did the Policeman get you to sign anything at the side of the road? Si, they dont have to do that. Policemans word is good enough these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I got cought doing over a 100, court summon - got work to write me a letter sayin how important my licence is to my work - they ended up giving me 6 points a 120quid fine.. summon took 6months to come through! But i've known someone who got cought doing 130mph, and the copper said he was going to get summoned. 2yrs gone now, still havn't heard anything. So.. all the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee GZ Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 Thanks a lot everyone for all ya help and kind words, really appreciate it.! I suppose it’s just going to be case of wait and see now, just been out side giving the sup a wash lol making the most of it, just in case..? They were quite persistent in pursuing the case (as were the court and other officials) but in the end I wiggled myself out scott-free. Used an extreme version of 'non-cooperation', providing no details, feedback or response whatsoever (but covering my ass at the same time in case it got ugly) In the end there is a limited amount of resources that can be thrown while pursuing such 'crimes' so if it drags long enough they decide to let it go and proceed to the next victim. I would like to know john bud when you say extreme verion of non-cooperation what do you mean by that, did you just spend ages in getting back to them with relevant info etc... and also how did you cover your ass just in case things turned bad? Gunna pop out in a min and produce all the documents, get that bit over and done with i suppose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I know what you mean about driving late at night empty motorway etc, everyone does it including the magistrate and the Policeman that pulled you up..you sound a responsible sort of fella..so tell them what you told us.. I wouldn't try and place to much emphasis on it being dark and late at night on empty roads etc in case they think it's a regular thing for you to do. Just say something that makes them know that you were aware of the road conditions (as in if it was dry, good visibility etc, number of cars about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 ... did you just spend ages in getting back to them with relevant info etc... and also how did you cover your ass just in case things turned bad?.. "ages" as in "never". Well, until I said the right things at the right moment - but there was only one thing they could do at that stage - scrap the lot and start again:eyebrows: With no guarantees that they'd manage to nail me down even on the next prosecution round, they probably decided to let go altogether. Never produced docs either, although I did have proof that I visited the named police station within the 7-day period. But being forgetful and absent in general I created more work for them and they didn't want to know. Oh well... Don't be fooled, if they really want to get someone they will. The 'hurdle' system relies on the real-word of budgets and limited resources on what is effectively a money-making excercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 um, stick ure de-limiter back on, and say your car cant do over 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 man,. he doesnt know how fast you was going. also if he was on his own then a visual by him isnt worth nothing, get a good solicitor - and ask the police how fast you were going,. even if the cop was doing 110mph and you past him,he wasnt tailing you so he wont know exactly your speed,only a guess which in court just wont cut it. you would only get a ban for speeding if you were doing at least twice the speed limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 tell the courts there was someone approaching you a high speed in the same lane from behind - you thought you were going to get rammed if the police man was watching you & the car in front he couldnt possibly be watching behind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well he’s putting me down for doing in excess of 110mph even though he recons he’s being lenient as i was going a lot faster! Got 7 days to produce and he said i will be getting a letter stating i will have to attend court. tell him to prove it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Si, they dont have to do that. Policemans word is good enough these days. on there own it isnt. there must be at least 2 officers for a visual estimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 If any police officers read my replies - please keep in mind all my posts are simple humour and not serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffy Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 when i got pulled at over 140 he couldnt clock me so couldnt do me, his speedo also wasnt calibrated and he was on his own in the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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