imi Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 dont worry, never too far from a cisco salesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 What switch are you running,,,, if its is a layer 3 switch...if so, get that to do the interVlan routing..the performance wouldnt be an issue I presume to be able to do VLANs at all it must be a Layer 3 switch. Anyway there are a couple of 3548s, a 3508, an a.. I dunno.. an older version of the 3548. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 I just read and thought some more. If the VLAN'ing is just partitioning off ports then it won't necessarily need to look at IP addresses so mightn't be layer 3, anyhoo I guess you're about to tell me whether they are or not. But. if so.. that sounds fab. interVlan routing - does that mean the switch does the routing between the vlans? :o wowzers. that'd be awesome. that'd get the full 1gbps between the two offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 I realise that won't offer the fine-grained control of using the ISA server (or another firewall), but it looks like a good quick-fix option for eliminating the 100mbps 3640 bottleneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Setup Vlans on the switch, and a trunk port and hook that to the FA interface on the router (just the one) and do routing on the stick. To keep things simple I would leave them seperate if there are enough interfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 If it supports full layer 3 then it will do routing, otherwise I don't know... You did say which switches they are, can't be arsed to read back on the post, so what where they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I just read and thought some more. If the VLAN'ing is just partitioning off ports then it won't necessarily need to look at IP addresses so mightn't be layer 3, anyhoo I guess you're about to tell me whether they are or not. But. if so.. that sounds fab. interVlan routing - does that mean the switch does the routing between the vlans? :o wowzers. that'd be awesome. that'd get the full 1gbps between the two offices. Vlaning is all layer 2 and independant of network protocol, so no addressing would need to be changed. Some higher level switches have layer 3 routing builtin or with add on routing modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 If it supports full layer 3 then it will do routing, otherwise I don't know... You did say which switches they are, can't be arsed to read back on the post, so what where they? 3548 x 2 and 3508 x 1 and an older 29xx one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 hmm. I'm just reading on InterVLAN routing and it's talking about using a router (on a stick). I was hoping that it was the switch which did the routing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 You dont have to use router on a stick with trunking. You can have two interfaces on your router configured as they are and just make sure they are plugged into the correct VLANs on your switch, thats its, very simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Yeah, I'm pretty sure those switches aren't layer 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 The 29xx isnt for sure and looking at some breif docs on the net the other are not either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 For the money??? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Foundry-FES-4802-Premium-FastIron-Switch-w-90-day-warr_W0QQitemZ9741391937QQcategoryZ71522QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nope you're right. The EoS announcement says the 3550 is better because it offers inter-vlan routing. Back to the ISA idea then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Which ISA idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I stuck up a pic a few posts back, using the ISA server at the core... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Ahh i see. Anyway I am finished for the night now, keep us posted how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Which ISA idea? Well, for now certainly just moving 192.168.100.254 over to the spare gigabit NIC in the ISA Server machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Ahh i see. Anyway I am finished for the night now, keep us posted how you get on. Thanks, I will do. I'm glad we have some smart people on here. Thanks for your input guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Carlos - before I go to bed. Make sure you are more or less sure that what you are doing it going to work BEFORE you make a change on a LIVE network. how are you going to test the config? how will you deal with downtime? and if things dont work out....make sure you have secured another job.. no kidding, make sure you know how to put the system back to what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Carlos - before I go to bed. Make sure you are more or less sure that what you are doing it going to work BEFORE you make a change on a LIVE network. how are you going to test the config? how will you deal with downtime? and if things dont work out....make sure you have secured another job.. no kidding, make sure you know how to put the system back to what it was. Don't worry! Thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Here's what I'll be going for. I should be able to do it with next to no downtime. http://www.uk2sucks.net/net-new.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 I'm trying to think of reasons to eliminate the second interface on the 3640. I could move the 10.0.10.0 subnet onto the 100mbps, and have the 3640 routing via the ISA server. Not sure why it would be of benefit, except it's allow firewalling and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 So it'd look like this: http://www.uk2sucks.net/net-new-alt.png I know you've all gone to bed, but if you have chance in the morning, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the choice of the above two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Scenario two seems a lot better, but will mean extra downtime. off to bed! night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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