Paul Laing Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Which boost controller is best for the Supra? Blitz Spec R? Was looking into getting that one. Or HKS one? Greddy etc? And also whats the easiest to programme and fit? Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I like all the Blitz ones. The DSBC Type R is as good (functionally) as the SBC-ID just doesn't have the flash display, and is quite a bit cheaper. Take about 3 hours to install. Easy enough to setup. Apexi ones, nice display, but the solenoid ain't a patch on the Blitz. HKS are good too, more pricey though. Gaz. BTW I sure there was a big thread on this just last week or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Bleed valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 Bleed Valve? How would a Bleed Valve be better than a BC? I know there alot cheaper, but then you need a Boost gauge, suppose there only £40 for a cheap one. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 but you'd want a boost gauge anyway wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing Bleed Valve? How would a Bleed Valve be better than a BC? I know there alot cheaper, but then you need a Boost gauge, suppose there only £40 for a cheap one. Paul Bleed valves don't get confused by the sequential twin turbo operation, they are cheaper, more reliable, don't clutter up an interior with no obvious places for gizmos with things that look like a bit fallen off a kids Nova, they are set in a couple of minutes and don't clutter the engine bay with wiring. I have yet to see an electronic boost controller with a boost level display anything like as easy to read as a decent analogue dial, and decent boost gauges start around 32 quid, so 32 + 35 = 67 quid, a big difference to circa 300 plus fitting and VAT. I am now often to be found removing electronic boost controllers in order to fit a bleed valve, with the customer reporting loss of flat spots and just as good boost control... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Chris Wilson things that look like a bit fallen off a kids Nova Haha, some people like that look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_Devlin Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Is a bleed valve adjustable in the car? I didnt think so... Also, can a bleed valve be used to sort out boost creep, or should one be used along with a restrictor ring to cope with it? I've never been too sure about what a boost controller can and cannot do w.r.t boost creep and now throwing this bleed valve thing into the mix has just completely confused me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Patrick_Devlin Is a bleed valve adjustable in the car? I didnt think so... Also, can a bleed valve be used to sort out boost creep, or should one be used along with a restrictor ring to cope with it? I've never been too sure about what a boost controller can and cannot do w.r.t boost creep and now throwing this bleed valve thing into the mix has just completely confused me A bleed valve can be easily made to be in car adjustable. Quite why anyone would want to adjust boost once set I am not sure, it always seems a bit unnecessary to me. A lot of people can't get bleed valves to control boost properly, this is nearly always because they haven't grasped the airflow concepts involved and is easiliy worked around to make them stable and capable of holding high RPM boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_Devlin Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 So if all I wanted on my car was to ensure the boost didnt go above 1.2 bar what would you suggest the best, most cost effective and efficient way of doing it would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Patrick_Devlin So if all I wanted on my car was to ensure the boost didnt go above 1.2 bar what would you suggest the best, most cost effective and efficient way of doing it would be? Well, as a boost controller or bleed valve can only RAISE the boost the only options are restrict the exhaust (restrictor ring) or enlarge the wastegate port (expensive, may not even be possible to enlarge enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_Devlin Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 OK, got it. Thanks Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Chris, how much would changes in weather effect the bleed? The restrictor is now such that most of the time it runs around 1.05/1.1 occasional 1.15, but Mon night in the cold and fog I hit a fraction short of 1.2. If the bleed was set to say 1.15 would it creep higher in the cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 On a more positive note for EBC's, they often allow multiple settings, give peak hold read outs ( I have yet to see a cheap boost gauge that will to this), some can data log, and the Blitz ones control boost extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 Chris you have pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Terry S On a more positive note for EBC's, they often allow multiple settings, give peak hold read outs ( I have yet to see a cheap boost gauge that will to this), some can data log, and the Blitz ones control boost extremely well. The blitz SBC-ID does have a good control mechanism plus the other features mentioned - it looks great and has loads of other toys to play with if you fit the powermeter! Oh - and yes it controls boost! The only thing missing from your post Chris 'Bah - humbag,...now when I were a lad we 'ad none a' this new fangled stuff - used to live int shoebox int middle a road'! It does cost more than a bleed valve however - probably something to do with the man hours of design and production! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Paul can i have a speed map with my bleed valve and halfrauds guage ???????? Dude:flame Dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprachargedtt Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 hi i have on order a turbosmart eboost controller as ive been told they are the best, im fittin it into the centre air vent hole and its gonna look wicked, has anyone else got one of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi guys, please help with this one. I fitted a manual boost controler to the right pipe, but doesnt seem any boost increase (10-11psi), and I have everything stock with an induction kit, can I get up to say 14 psi at all? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 You need a restrictor pill in the correct line. Which pipe is it in, post a pic somewhere, (don't e-mail it me, I have my mail app set to reject large attachments). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 thanks guys, I have just borrow someones picture, as see on this pic, I put the mbc between the hose 2,it should be the right pipe, any sugestion. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SpeedUp Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I've got the Blitz SBC-iD (and the PowerMeter-iD). And I'm happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr keef Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 so all i need is a bleed valve and a boost gauge??i have a bleed valve lying around of my reno 5 gt turbo might give it a bash can anyone mail me a pic of the hose i need to put it in or mabye a pic of where to plumb the boost gauge into. ([email protected]) cheers all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now