lambertpig Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 hi, just been to pick up supra had bilstein sport shocks fitted already running eibach springs 19" wheels.problems the 2 rears are a odd hight about 1 inch diffence clearance between arches. the hight on one side seems as was before and higher on the other from before. both fronts seem to have drooped a little and now just catches on wheels ,removing the middle inner arch nut seems to have cured this after some spirited testing roundabouts.the ride is harder/bumping/banging than before but handling well im not sure its any better than the uk shocks on before.any ideas about the rears.the garage have kept the car and are refitting rears tommorow they have said that the springs are loose on the shocks but i have seen threads regarding this before HELP PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 knackered springs would be my guess but that doesn't mean much to be honest!! am sure someone else will give you a better explanation soon enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 HMMM I beleive springs are pretty new and car sat perfectly before shocks fitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 still got the old shocks? try them and if they're sitting fine return the billies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 still got stock shocks they were on the car this morning sitting perfectly just a bit bouncy i was really hoping the handling would now be perfect but its not right.im hoping they must have not seated one properly at the rear cant see how though and they are pretty reliable lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Only way ride height can be out is odd springs, broken springs, front spring on one side of rear, and vice versa, or a seat on upside down, or slipped over circlip. Most are bizarre, but one never ceases to be amazed at what people can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 what d'ya know.......i was almost right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Any evidence of one of the Bilstein dampers leaking fluid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 shocks unused new.springs perfect order.rears replaced before fronts so no mix ups.must be something wrong with fitting will find out tommorrw but its put a damper on things pardon the pun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Any evidence of one of the Bilstein dampers leaking fluid? They can have no fluid in them at all and the ride height won't change. Well, it will, by a fraction, if you are being pedantic, as the gas charge gives them a TINY bit of spring rate of their own, so if the gas is lost the ride height may change, but I'd bet it couldn't even be measured with a vernier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 oh and what is it with the springs being loose on the dampers ?.they thought it strange but ive seen something like it here before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 They can have no fluid in them at all and the ride height won't change. Well, it will, by a fraction, if you are being pedantic, as the gas charge gives them a TINY bit of spring rate of their own, so if the gas is lost the ride height may change, but I'd bet it couldn't even be measured with a vernier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 yep further to my last post one of the new bilsteins is leaking ,this is the side that is low on the front and the opposite of the one high at the rear looks like this could be my prob it really crashes and bangs otver bumps on this side. thanks everybody for all the tech advice bilstein are sending a replacement ,if this dont work then im really screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weinelm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Sorry, I didn't see this post when I replied to your other thread. I had the "loose" spring thing too, when I had the Bilstein and Eibach combination. My car was very low at the front, like yours too. And the Bilstein and stock spring combination didn't need a spring compressor to assemble either, although not as loose. See my previous posts: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=54765&highlight=Bilstein http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=42043 I've never really got to the bottom of this. The Bilsteins are aftermarket (ie. not marked with Toyota) and have the part no.s: F4-B46-1792-HO -Front F4-B46-1793-HO -Rear The Eibach Spring part no.s are (although I'm back on stock now): 8222.001 8222.002 Reading your post, it sounds similar to my experience and I am still a little suspicious that the after market Bilsteins are different to Toyota Bilsteins.. or maybe that there are different versions of the after market ones? From the part numbers I've no idea if my shocks are the right ones or not. I've attached pics of mine and the Toyota marked ones, just for reference (ignore the red-circled spring seat this time... that was the other problem ). All that said my car seems to drive ok with the stock springs and Bilsteins. The car is now pretty much level. But I guess it’s possible that it’s still not at it’s best! Anyway hope you get yours sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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