Mcgoo Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Anyone got a specific grounding kit on a soop or know if they do anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Yes i put one on at BPU+++ Last year. now its prob in my head, but I swear here that it made it smoother... thats it... PS*** Put in well it looks bling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Yep. My car feels smoother, starts a bit better and idles better. You also get brighter headlamps and your stereo is louder There is also supposed to be a hp gain through fitting these, but I wouldnt like to comment. For £40 its a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-rich Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 which wires does this replace ? and is it a big job to fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 For £40 its a good thing. Tell me more http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=642166&posted=1#post642166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 was going to get this until i spoke to an auto electrician who told me that there is no need for them at all and went into very technical reasons that went straight over my head, one that i did understand is that earth is earth, you cannot improve a good one, and seeing as they are all good when they roll off the production line, the only thing you may have to do is make sure stock grounding points are clean and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Todd have a look on the Miami GT website for the supra grounding kit Richard, it doesnt replace any wires, you just add wires to the existing earthing system by mounting them on common earthing points such as bolts on the wing, bulkhead etc. Dead easy job, takes no longer than 30 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcgoo Posted December 11, 2005 Author Share Posted December 11, 2005 I can feel a christmas pressy coming on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 was going to get this until i spoke to an auto electrician who told me that there is no need for them at all and went into very technical reasons that went straight over my head, one that i did understand is that earth is earth, you cannot improve a good one, and seeing as they are all good when they roll off the production line, the only thing you may have to do is make sure stock grounding points are clean and good. Now I know that cant be right. true on a new car its fine, btu has anyone ever seen an old escort indicating at traffic lights? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I have made my own kits for over a decade. I also remove all the paint from the stock grounding points. Toyota do a lame job on this, sometimes the earthing point is the bolt threads as the end ring only contacts with paint. The larger clean contact area means less restriction to current demands as demonstrated in high power hi-fi installations. I achieved way faster bass response in my sub by doing this, brighter headlights etc. In theory the std earthing works fine, in practice it sucks. Some manufacturers that do a better job include Vaxhaull and VW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Now I know that cant be right. true on a new car its fine, btu has anyone ever seen an old escort indicating at traffic lights? lol would love someone to actually prove it wrong because for £40 it would be a great investment, but all i have heard is that people think it has improved things, and as for bling i think they loooook tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 would love someone to actually prove it wrong because for £40 it would be a great investment, but all i have heard is that people think it has improved things, and as for bling i think they loooook tacky. Just a few thoughts for you to consider. Anyone can see brighter lights Anyone can hear faster bass Do you think the like of HKS and other respectable company's would put their name on it if it was a fake? You can make a very discreet DIY kit like I did which is not obvious under the bonnet. You may improve the design by linking an 8 gauge cable across the chassis legs while making a complete engine bay circle rather than a star battery source style. Current will flow via a hi-fi grade cable much faster with better transient demand response than toyotas cheapie specials. Consider that the live goes direct to all places, however the earth has to go via various spot welded joints and various thickness of metal. Whats the chances of both positive and negative being of similar strength when it arrives at the component?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Just a few thoughts for you to consider. Anyone can see brighter lights Anyone can hear faster bass Do you think the like of HKS and other respectable company's would put their name on it if it was a fake? You can make a very discreet DIY kit like I did which is not obvious under the bonnet. You may improve the design by linking an 8 gauge cable across the chassis legs while making a complete engine bay circle rather than a star battery source style. Current will flow via a hi-fi grade cable much faster with better transient demand response than toyotas cheapie specials. Consider that the live goes direct to all places, however the earth has to go via various spot welded joints and various thickness of metal. Whats the chances of both positive and negative being of similar strength when it arrives at the component?. anyone can see and here what they want to when they have just spent time and money on things ie. induction kit. hks and other companies will tell you (to a certain degree) what you want to here. (fact) next two stated by auto electrician :-current is not drawn in an earth. an earth only needs to achieve a negative current/amp ie. doesnt matter how negative it is. on the other hand you may be right, i am getting two views and just stated. proof required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 your £40 must be mighty precious lol :-)~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 £40 is very expensive. Bought mine from ebay for £21 delivered, with an HKS badge on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 ...Some manufacturers that do a better job include Vaxhaull and VW. VW perhaps, vaux definately not:woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-rich Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 have just brought one of these off ebay ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 your £40 must be mighty precious lol :-)~ no the £40 isn't that precious but could be spent on something that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Anyone got a specific grounding kit on a soop or know if they do anything? Yes - me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have red and dark blue available - also do other colours (purple going on mine!) I did not think that this would make a difference until reading a before / after dyno run in Modified mag on a scooby fitted with one. HP improvement seen Also my old supra deffo started better... What have you got to loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 What have you got to loose? £40............sorry couldn't resist it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have red and dark blue available - also do other colours (purple going on mine!) I did not think that this would make a difference until reading a before / after dyno run in Modified mag on a scooby fitted with one. HP improvement seen Also my old supra deffo started better... What have you got to loose? thats all i wanted to hear, sold to the sceptic. me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 £40............sorry couldn't resist it Not so much loosing as investing for the future... Bee-atch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolsius Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I fitted on of these to my Zed and it squared away an erratic idle, and cleaned up the response. Would agree with taking the time to make sure have a good connection. My 2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Thank goodness for expensive brand-name speaker wire, it's so much better at conducting electricity than the whole damn car bodyshell. £40's worth of placebo effect please. HP increase seen How's that work then? -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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