JohnA Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Pick a shitty, wet and miserable day. Every little helps. But suppose he loses it and gets hurt. Could you face the fact that you were partially responsible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Don't do a standing start and just pick a race with some bends in it, if you can drive the car properly you won't have anything to worry about. I've raced serious bikes down country lanes (in my last, less powerful car) and was all over them to the point where it's not actually funny (or safe)... Seriously though, if it's a good mate and he is a novice, probably best not to race "in anger" as he could come off much worse for wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Don't do a standing start and just pick a race with some bends in it, if you can drive the car properly you won't have anything to worry about. I've raced serious bikes down country lanes (in my last, less powerful car) and was all over them to the point where it's not actually funny (or safe)... Seriously though, if it's a good mate and he is a novice, probably best not to race "in anger" as he could come off much worse for wear Did you not see Fifth Gear this week, car vs bike on track, car being a proper track orientated Westfield XTR - the car won by tenths of a second. Bikes are perfectly capable of corning as fast as cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 yeah ok in perfect conditions with a superbike on a suitably flat track, with a "gifted" rider and nothing to catch you out! in reality many or all of those are not the case and on the roads with uneven surfaces, varying grip and limited space to lean properly it can be very very different... PS: Yes I did see it, funny how the bike was riden by a gifted rider, the car by VHB (and the car still won) - now change the rider/driver around and try again to get a clearer picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Also, they did a similar test before with a superbike rider and very fast bike, against someone (Clarkson?) in a Boxster of all things!!! The Boxster won. Completely depends which track you do it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Did you not see Fifth Gear this week, car vs bike on track, car being a proper track orientated Westfield XTR - the car won by tenths of a second. Bikes are perfectly capable of corning as fast as cars I ride an R1 very fast, and there is no way I can keep with my mates GTR round corners.... and yes im a capable rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Did you not see Fifth Gear this week, car vs bike on track, car being a proper track orientated Westfield XTR - the car won by tenths of a second. Bikes are perfectly capable of corning as fast as cars i beg to differ mate but the record for a car on the ring is nearly a minute faster than for a bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 a minute? thats a _big_ difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Sorry. Forgot. Bikes are crap. Still, I'd take my bike over any car I've ever owned. So a car *might* be faster, but only till you hit the first queue - then adios amigos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Can't belive we are on bike are faster than cars thread yet agian!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Sorry. Forgot. Bikes are crap. Still, I'd take my bike over any car I've ever owned. So a car *might* be faster, but only till you hit the first queue - then adios amigos! you just like dressin in leather i love motorbikes but after what happened to a few people i know, don't think i'd ever get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 you just like dressin in leather i love motorbikes but after what happened to a few people i know, don't think i'd ever get one LOL!! The only bike leather I own is my gloves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Not a propper biker then Bikes offer unparrallelled bang for buck levels, but around a track a car is usually gonna be faster, you have to be pretty die hard on a bike to even keep up. Apples and oranges.. lets leave it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Not yet But indeed - bike vs cars is a stupid argument, started off by a very stupid person who won't last long on a bike if the first thing he wants to do is start racing supras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I ride bikes and have done for 23 years and I hate to admit it but no matter which bike I have ridden or owned (which include the RSV R and 916) one cannot get the power down on the road hard enough whilst cornering to keep up with a well sorted high performance sports car. And beleive me Ive tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1980 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 But indeed - bike vs cars is a stupid argument, started off by a very stupid person who won't last long on a bike if the first thing he wants to do is start racing supras Agreed Getting a CBR600 for your first bike isn't exactly clever, but then wanting to race a supra having no riding experience is just downright silly. There's a reason riders are known as 'donors' in hospitals y'know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 There's a reason riders are known as 'donors' in hospitals y'know thats a very sad thought... Agreed though, it's a silly argument to have really. They are different and offer different strengths and weaknesses. I would imagine however if you listed all the strenghts and weaknesses out objectively, the car would look pretty favourable at the end of the day - so if I bike can beat it under particular circumstances who cares. You pay the price on a bike everytime you ride it, that price is the exceptional risk you're taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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