Whitelightning Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hi guys, more gear issues from TAZ. . . Last night I got stuck in 5th gear, ground to halt on a particulary steep hill so called AA out. Before they arrived I was trying to select 1st and 2nd to pull away and the car just seemed stuck in 5th all the time. Some 10 mins later I tried again (after switching off the engine, pondering and using some spirited gear changing a few times). This time 1st was working so I took advantage and pulled away. Gears 2nd, 3rd and 4th all worked fine. Unfortunally the gear I had been stuck in now became the gear I could not get. Both 5th and 6th were smooth and when engaged just allowed me to rev as though the gear gate was fine but the gears were missing (or in neutral) . . . but I managed to get home. Summary - no 5th and 6th gear. Now Matt mentioned this some moons ago and suggested the selector bushes might be a problem. I also note: (a) 5th/6th gear uses same selector. (b) It was hard coming out of AND is now impossible to get into the same gears (5th/6th) which suggest gearbox ok and selector mechanism is faulty. Now what do I do ? Go to an independent garage ? Go to Toyota locally ? I am sure some of you have intimate knowledge of gearboxes and selector mechanisms so I will open this up[ for discussion - hope you can help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted May 31, 2005 Author Share Posted May 31, 2005 Going to Gearlink Ltd this afternoon, hopefully we wills ee what the problem is . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 If you've mashed the gear in the worst case scenario...used g/box is about £1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Going to Gearlink Ltd this afternoon, hopefully we wills ee what the problem is . . . . Let me know what they are like with the Getrag box as I need 5th synchro's replacing and I'm looking for somewhere useful to do it... -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Getrag have now released all the parts to be able to rebuild these boxes.. I know a Getrag specialist in London who have helped me with some issues I had a long time A so called Supra specialist fitted a clutch and flywheel incorrectly and then told me that my gearbox was done in which was completely WRONG.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Getrag have now released all the parts to be able to rebuild these boxes.. I know a Getrag specialist in London who have helped me with some issues I had a long time Yup, I've got the 50+ pages of Toyota manual stripdown and rebuild instructions, and the parts diagrams, SSTs required, and even the dollar price of all the bits. But it's not a job I can do myself, so... A so called Supra specialist fitted a clutch and flywheel incorrectly and then told me that my gearbox was done in which was completely WRONG.. ... I need to find someone I can trust 5th gear is the first bit you see after the bellhousing as well! Easy -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Could I suggest that Mr Wilson might be the chappie to talk to....? We were discussing these some time back I think I am right in remembering that he has the technology to do them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 My gearbox is being stripped down by Gearlink Ltd (Salisbury) today. We believe the aluminium arm on the 4th rail is destroyed or at least severely damaged and this explains why both 5th and 6th gear have gone. The problem is that this arm metal will be flying round the gearbox so I have handed the car over before anymore mileage is done on her. The cost of removal, stripping, fault finding, spares, fixing and refitting has been quoted to me as £600 + VAT. The sooner I win the lottery the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 The problem is not stripping them down but getting the parts. They dont want you fixing them they want you to buy a new gearbox. I have searched the internet and cannot find a Getrag Supplier in the UK. Some engineering firms dont even want to know about them, prefering the easier gearboxes to fix. If anyone has a contact for Getrag supplies (or even a new gear box) then I would be very grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Helical Gearbox Repairs79, Foxberry Rd, London, SE4 2SS Tel: 020 8691 5953 Tese guys are Getrag specialists and Im 99% sure can get hold of all the parts needed to rebuild boxes... They fixed the problem that JPS left me with 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Also there is a box on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43120&item=7976875761&rd=1 If you bought it you could take out all the bits as spares for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thanks my friend, the boys at Gearlink are opening her up as we speak. If the condition is bad then I will buy the gearbox. I am sure there are people here who could use the parts If all is well, and there is not too much damage, then I will be ringing your contact for a odd spare. Cheers again . . . Update: Gave him a ring, he has no v161 getrag spares at the moment (Only Lotus Carlton boxes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 this might also help, find the part numbers. http://mkiv.com/tmp/6spd_parts/prices/index.html A very good parts source for getrag parts at a KILLER price is Elmhurst in the US. Ask to speak to Curt. If they can get the parts get them 24 hour fedex'd Elmhurst Toyota 440 West Lake St. Elmhurst, IL 60126 Main Phone 800-337-4358 Email Contact Us Fax 630-279-1788 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Chris Wilson isn't tooled up to do them, but he gave me loads of advice I shall be having words with those Helical boys at some point then -Ian PS you've got a V160 haven't you WL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thanks TRD3000GT, regretably the helical boys have nothing for Supra Getrag Gearboxes. This afternoon I will get confirmation on the precise nature of the gearbox fault. I have a gearbox from Japan waiting in storage (fully reconditioned) for £850 +VAT. But obviously this is an outlay I would rather not have to pay if I can help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Selector mechanism is fekked, its high tensile steel so a bugger to fix. The engineering team say it can be fixed and no new gearbox is required. The gearbox lies in pieces but I have faith in GearLink Ltd, they say it will be done by Friday Updates when I have them . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yep, seriously interested in these guys, if they do a good job and stick to their word I've got a relatively easy one for them -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted June 3, 2005 Author Share Posted June 3, 2005 Ok all done They machined the parts needed, fitted them inside and put the box back on. It cost £705 inclusive of tax. A bit poo that the money had to be paid out but good that they were able to do it and at short notice. They said next time bring a Getrag gearbox with me because this box is on its last legs Also found emulsified oil in the differential - not good. (checked on last service my ass !) Also found clutch to dragging (and adjusted). So Taz is back on the road but I get the feeling my bills will just keep coming in with this one . . . . such is the life of a modified Supra owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Muck yer PM box out -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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