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Rattley idle

Ian C

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Rattley idle


Also known as:

Noisy gearbox

Noisy flywheel


What is it?

It’s either the manual gearbox or the flywheel. A light rattling noise is usually the gearbox due to it’s construction, and as the gearbox warms up and tolerances close the rattling dies down. A louder rattle could be the flywheel getting tired.


Usually caused by:

Old flywheel

Cold manual gearbox



The manual box has some very tight tolerances to deal with the power it can handle, but the tradeoff is a positive shift action, a rattle when cold, and no tolerance to sloppy gearshifts :) As the ‘box warms up the tolerances close up and the rattle goes away.

The stock flywheel is a dual mass sprung unit. This means it’s got a mechanism for damping drivetrain shunts instead of having a sprung clutch plate. When it’s getting old things get loose in the sprung/dampened areas and a rattle occurs.


How bad is this problem?

The manual box noise is normal.

The flywheel, when rattley, still has life left in it, but it’s best replaced when the clutch is next swapped out.



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