Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Anyone here running Yellow Dog on the PS3? This is my first time running linux... ever.. and i'm having a bit of trouble. Obviously its completely alien to me but i'm struggling even to get the wireless to work on it. Eventually will be trying to set up shares over my network but first things first. I'm running version 6.0 if that makes any difference. Anyone else doing the same? Fancy shedding some light on the t'internet trouble? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Scratch that. Got the t'internet working. Any info on mounting shared drives might be helpful though. The shared drive is //desktop/movies and its on a vista PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 This OS really is as user friendly as a kick in the nuts and as intuitive as brain surgery. I've managed to get a share working using the "mount" command. I've searched for guides on setting it up so it comes on automatically but not managed to find a straight forward enough one. Everytime i start following a guide it turns out i have something missing or my linux is slightly different from the type used in the guide. I don't mind setting it up manually though as, after experiencing it first hand, it will rarely be getting booted into linux. The problem i am having now is playing AVI files. I did a search and came across "MPlayer". I managed to find it, download it and get a guide on how to install it. ANOTHER bloody problem. There is something wrong with either the compiler or the type of compiler in the system. It asked if i wanted to ignore the error, to which i typed in the command to do so, i then tried to compile it only to be told the compiler would definitely fail. Anyone got a pre-compiled user friendly interface MPLayer they could send me? I'm glad to give the Linux OS a go, i have meant to for years, but i think i'll stick with windows on the PC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Never used yellow dog but you can probably either use smbmount from a terminal or in Gnome go Places -> Connect to Server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Never used yellow dog but you can probably either use smbmount from a terminal or in Gnome go Places -> Connect to Server. I managed to get the share mounted using the "mount" command. Thanks Its quite strange, if i go into "my computer" then i think its "network" a folder called "Windows Shares", or something like that, is there. When i click on it it comes up with error. I thought i was going to be lucky and all my shares would be in there. I presume there is some setting up involved as all my share's are password protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Re: MPlayer, well, you should probably be using the package management system rather than building from source. That's the point about distributions, they have package management and pre-compiled packages for downloading. As I said, I've never used Yellowdog linux, but since Fedora's package management system is called "yum" (Yellowdog Updater Modified), I'm guessing that Yellowdog uses yum too. So you would do something a bit like: yum install mplayer and yum install codecs-ugly (or whatever the package name for the dirty non-free codecs is. You should probably do "yum search codec" and see what codecs are out there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Re: MPlayer, well, you should probably be using the package management system rather than building from source. That's the point about distributions, they have package management and pre-compiled packages for downloading. As I said, I've never used Yellowdog linux, but since Fedora's package management system is called "yum" (Yellowdog Updater Modified), I'm guessing that Yellowdog uses yum too. So you would do something a bit like: yum install mplayer and yum install codecs-ugly (or whatever the package name for the dirty non-free codecs is. You should probably do "yum search codec" and see what codecs are out there). Ahh that seems like what i am after. Do i just type these commands into the terminal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Actually, I guess it wouldn't be yum would it. Maybe it's "yu" as in just "yellowdog updater" ? I'll google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ahh that seems like what i am after. Do i just type these commands into the terminal? Yeah. Or just find the package management GUI, which could be "Add/Remove Software" or "Synaptic" or "PackageKit" or something like that. Try yum from the terminal though to see if yum is there (as root, so do "su -" first. That's su minus, followed by enter and the root password). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Apparently it does use yum and it's based around Fedora or CentOS (RedHat-ish). So useful commands would be "yum update" to get all available updates to existing installed packages, and "yum search something" to find stuff, maybe "yum search something|more" and then "yum install something" to install what you found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 YellowDog would be a bad intro to Linux on a PC IMO, let alone the crippled PS3 version. I've not used it on the PS3 but from all accounts it's interesting that it can run it from a technical point of view, but it's so slow that I think you may have trouble if you're expecting it to play back any high def stuff. If you're curious about Linux, you're much better off trying a live CD on your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 YellowDog would be a bad intro to Linux on a PC IMO, let alone the crippled PS3 version. I've not used it on the PS3 but from all accounts it's interesting that it can run it from a technical point of view, but it's so slow that I think you may have trouble if you're expecting it to play back any high def stuff. If you're curious about Linux, you're much better off trying a live CD on your PC. It is unbelievably slow. Its nice that Sony decided to open the PS3 up a little bit but it would be even better if they would take away the restrictions. I'm going home tonight to have another go. Its only very small AVI files that i'm looking to play, low quality too, so i'm hoping it will manage. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I agree it's not the best introduction to Linux. Apparently it uses Enlightenment, which although impressive in its day, isn't a full integrated desktop environment like Gnome or KDE. Regarding codecs.. unless you're using Ubuntu, it's traditional for proprietary non-free codecs not to be available from the distribution's own repositories (package download system/places), so yum won't find all those codecs until you add the repository that supplies them, which in the case of Fedora is livna.org. I don't know what the score is with YDL. AVI is just a container format. The codecs used for both video and audio inside the AVI could be anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 stupid question but how did you load up linux onto your ps3? off the internet or disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 YellowDog would be a bad intro to Linux on a PC IMO, let alone the crippled PS3 version. I've not used it on the PS3 but from all accounts it's interesting that it can run it from a technical point of view, but it's so slow that I think you may have trouble if you're expecting it to play back any high def stuff. If you're curious about Linux, you're much better off trying a live CD on your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 stupid question but how did you load up linux onto your ps3? off the internet or disc? Download from the net and burn to a CD, there is an option in the PS3 menu to load another OS. Not recommended unless you have played with stuff like this before. I really cant see why you would go through the hassle, unless your a developer interested in the cell chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 Download from the net and burn to a CD, there is an option in the PS3 menu to load another OS. Not recommended unless you have played with stuff like this before. I really cant see why you would go through the hassle, unless your a developer interested in the cell chips I'm going to embarrass myself again. I have 8000 karaoke tracks that my wife and all our friends (for house party purposes) are quite close to. I got the PS3 as a replacement to the mediacenter i had. Its only downfall is that you can't search for a song or a letter etc. If you have 8000 songs and want to scroll through to "s" it takes a while. With linux u hit "s" and you are there already. Thats my main reason for linux on the PS3. That along with the obvious curiosity and experimentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 This is really giving me a headache now. I have installed, as far as i know, mplayer and i have installed the Divx codec required. I don't know how to pair the two of them up together though. Linux really is a pain! I've managed to sort out my shares fine and i have a very small divx5.0/mp3 avi file on the desktop. I don't know how to get it to play with Mplayer but i have tried with "movie player". I get the error "Totem could not play file "blah". You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file etc. I installed divx so i don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 It can be complicated. Totem can use various back-ends for dealing with the actual coding/decoding. In Fedora Totem uses the gstreamer backend, as that's part of Gnome, and Totem is a gnome thing. I suspect this is generally how Totem works by default full-stop. So you really need gstreamer codecs for whatever format you're dealing with if you want to use Totem. Mplayer often uses the xine backend, which has many codecs available, so you would want mplayer-xine (that's mplayer built to work with xine as a backend), and then the xine version of the codecs. Something like that anyway. Other distributions make this much easier and there are many walk-throughs out there, e.g. Fedora and Ubuntu. Just try googling divx yellowdog and see how other people do it. You might not need DivX installed at all, xvid might decode divx stuff. I'm not sure. Best bet is to get onto IRC (irc.freenode.net via xchat), and join #ydl or #yellowdog or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 You could always try VLC Player, doesn't need any external codecs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 You could always try VLC Player, doesn't need any external codecs. That's a good idea. Looks like it'll do subtitles too which might be necessary with karaoke stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 It can be complicated. Totem can use various back-ends for dealing with the actual coding/decoding. In Fedora Totem uses the gstreamer backend, as that's part of Gnome, and Totem is a gnome thing. I suspect this is generally how Totem works by default full-stop. So you really need gstreamer codecs for whatever format you're dealing with if you want to use Totem. Mplayer often uses the xine backend, which has many codecs available, so you would want mplayer-xine (that's mplayer built to work with xine as a backend), and then the xine version of the codecs. Something like that anyway. Other distributions make this much easier and there are many walk-throughs out there, e.g. Fedora and Ubuntu. Just try googling divx yellowdog and see how other people do it. You might not need DivX installed at all, xvid might decode divx stuff. I'm not sure. Best bet is to get onto IRC (irc.freenode.net via xchat), and join #ydl or #yellowdog or something. Its at this point i'm thinking its not worth the hassle lol. You could always try VLC Player, doesn't need any external codecs. That's a good idea. Looks like it'll do subtitles too which might be necessary with karaoke stuff. I did try to get VLC but i wasn't sure how to. Do i just download it from the VLC website and double click install? Nothing is simple with yellowdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I did try to get VLC but i wasn't sure how to. Do i just download it from the VLC website and double click install? Nothing is simple with yellowdog Is it not in the repositories "yum install vlc"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Have you tried this "Fluendo" thing? http://us.fixstars.com/support/configuration/media.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Is it not in the repositories "yum install vlc"? Na, gave that a go and it did nothing lol. Having a look at the other link u posted. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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