tbourner Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I've got a Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router, so the mrs can connect on her laptop, but it keeps switching off and going orange light (lots of reports on the net about it, it's just a cheap crap unit apparently, needs replacing). I've got an ip set up to the router, and firewalled and stuff. But I tried going to a 'get ip automatically' setting and connected the Virgin modem RJ45 lead directly into the PC to bypass the router, but it wouldn't connect (limited or no connectivity), what do I need to do to take the router out of the equation but still be firewalled and stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Have you checked for firmware updates? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17820875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 Yep, they can't be done, I've checked everything I just need to buy a new router (and not a Belkin!!). All I need is to be able to reliably connect for the next few days as I'm (supposed to be) working from home and I keep getting disconnected every 5 mins and have to reboot it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 You need to do away with the router, plug directly in to computer, power off cable modem and power it back on. Enable Windows Firewall on the LAN connection, or go out and buy a Netgear WGxxx router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireRZ-S Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 some routers for them to connect you need to log into the router (ip address) and activate connection. Have you done this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I had the exact same problem, ive been a computer engineer for 7 years so i have good experiance, It could not find an ip everytime i restarted the laptop, i had to reinstall the tiscali cd evertime for the wireless to work, So i used ethernet port and that works fine i tried alot of things to get the wireless to work but was just wasted hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Who's your ISP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireRZ-S Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Also do you have Vista or XP on comp and have you made sure that its vista compatiable if you have Vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 some routers for them to connect you need to log into the router (ip address) and activate connection. Have you done this?? I don't think he has any issues with connecting to the router, it's just that the router is broken and keeps crashing, so he wants to work without it. When moving a cable modem from one device (computer/router) to another, you quite often have to power cycle the modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 You need to do away with the router, plug directly in to computer, power off cable modem and power it back on. Enable Windows Firewall on the LAN connection, or go out and buy a Netgear WGxxx router. I'll give that a go, I remember setting up my firewalls a couple of years ago but can't remember what I did, I think my setting might be what's screwing up the connection through the direct modem. I'll try rebooting and stuff though. some routers for them to connect you need to log into the router (ip address) and activate connection. Have you done this?? There's nothing I can do in the settings to stop it rebooting itself, it's to do with a PSU problem and internal regulation, there's been a new router released to fix the issues, but mine's an old one. Who's your ISP Virgin. Also do you have Vista or XP on comp and have you made sure that its vista compatiable if you have Vista I've got XP home, the router worked when I first got it, it's 2 years old so it's gradually been getting worse and rebooting more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I'll give that a go, I remember setting up my firewalls a couple of years ago but can't remember what I did, I think my setting might be what's screwing up the connection through the direct modem. I'll try rebooting and stuff though. Have you got some funny firewall software then? ZoneAlarm, Norton, McAfee etc. ? You'll need to sort those out. They shouldn't block DHCP though, which is the thing that gives you your IP address. The cable modem will give a private IP address to begin with (192.168.x.x) after being powered-on, with a short (15 second or so) lease time, so that your computer continually requests a renewal of the address. When the modem makes the connection to Virgin it will pass a public IP address to the computer. This is why a firewall is important really, but a software firewall will do for now. Windows Firewall is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 I just had a look on the router, it was setting up ports for BitTornado that I was doing, just got a firewall on the router and the Windows Firewall (and AVG, but that doesn't count!). So I reconnected and rebooted and set it to auto-IP again and it seems to have connected OK. I'll have to get another router I guess and set that up. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Home routers are simply just not upto dealing with the higher speed networks that are becoming available I don't think. The tiny embedded processors and the small amount of onboard memory is just not up to handling the higher speed ADSL / Cable connections, and memory leaks occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 This one ("PSU problem and internal regulation") sounds just like duff capacitors, as seen on many motherboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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