lockys96 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 here is my thread 2 years ago http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=51450&highlight=tein it didnt want to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 30, 2008 Author Share Posted August 30, 2008 here is my thread 2 years ago http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=51450&highlight=tein it didnt want to move They look the same as mine, except with less rust These havn't been shifted since dude went on holiday, but possibly for much longer than that. Did you compress the spring before trying to shift them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 If they're still on the car (i.e. top mount still connected and bottom end still on the suspension) they still exert a huge force on the collar, was just curious if any of the problematic ones hadn't been compressed, but dandan blew that idea out All I can say is your idea of huge is smaller than mine Obviously I can't quantify the amount of force, but I can say that when the rings are turning freely it doesn't take much strength to turn the ring with the spring resting on it. As Dandan says, grease is the key, otherwise they end up knackered and that's that, compressed springs or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 30, 2008 Author Share Posted August 30, 2008 All I can say is your idea of huge is smaller than mine Obviously I can't quantify the amount of force, but I can say that when the rings are turning freely it doesn't take much strength to turn the ring with the spring resting on it. As Dandan says, grease is the key, otherwise they end up knackered and that's that, compressed springs or not. You might well be right I was only going on my experience when compressing the rear spring, even with 2.5-3inchs taken out, they were still putting a hell of a lot of pressure on the bottom collar. FI: Found that the HR and HA are the same spring wise, but the HA has an adjustable damper, the HR doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I used a wire brush and a hammer. I can post mine out to you if you want to borrow mate. I have the old style teins on mine. (no damper adjustment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 You might well be right I was only going on my experience when compressing the rear spring, even with 2.5-3inchs taken out, they were still putting a hell of a lot of pressure on the bottom collar. When I was doing mine I had both wheels off the ground... I think if you jack up just one wheel the sway bar adds quite a bit of force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 30, 2008 Author Share Posted August 30, 2008 When I was doing mine I had both wheels off the ground... I think if you jack up just one wheel the sway bar adds quite a bit of force. Both wheels off the ground (as always), no ARB connected.. Edit - the car has sat for years with no engine, drivetrain, interior, etc so might just be that the springs need to settle again from being expanded for so many years. Just a theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Both wheels off the ground (as always), no ARB connected.. Edit - the car has sat for years with no engine, drivetrain, interior, etc so might just be that the springs need to settle again from being expanded for so many years. Just a theory! Sounds like ideal conditions, springs wanting to settle shouldn't affect them much in the expanded state (just a guess ). But I suppose it's a bit of a moot point how much force they're exerting - if you think the ring is going to break, compressing them would be wise regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 My new ones turn freely after simply jacking the car up and removing the wheel...once you have "unlocked them" from each other. Do yours have the small helper springs as well Homer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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