Paul Laing Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Can these be put on my car without having HKS cams? I don't know much about cam gears and i think the HKS ones are adjustable, would they need set up correctly or could it be a DIY job? I'm not thinking about performance gain, but looks. I think they would look great if i cut a gap in the engine cover so you could see them, having a purple engine bay Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing Can these be put on my car without having HKS cams? I don't know much about Pulleys and i think the HKS ones are adjustable, would they need set up correctly or could it be a DIY job? I'm not thinking about performance gain, but looks. I think they would look great if i cut a gap in the engine cover so you could see them, having a purple engine bay Paul It all has to come off Paul - why not get a cam belt change at same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 9, 2004 Author Share Posted May 9, 2004 Is it just the top two that you have to buy or is there more hidden anywhere under the engine? I havn't looked yet, but it just looks like the top two. Can these two just be changed? Or will it much up the performance? I love em Cambelt was changed about 5k ago so thats ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 To put the top two HKS coloured gears on you have to take off the whole Cambelt etc - and set them up right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 there are better cam gears than hks. get some polished ones you ricer i have a nice purple flip paint colur cam cover with hole cut out to show cam gears do you want to buy it. some people get stock cam gears polished up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 9, 2004 Author Share Posted May 9, 2004 Mark - i would of bought it but mines in the bodyshop getting done, any pics though? I really like the purple HKS cam gears, just for the looks they would look great in my purple engine bay..... To polish up the stock ones, do these just unbolt off and bolt back on, they won't need setting up either will they? Thats an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Paul, It doesn't matter if you take them off and put either a new set on or the old ones, you will have to set up the cams just right when reinstalling the cam belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 9, 2004 Author Share Posted May 9, 2004 It gives settings on Titanmotorsports to gain 5-7rwhp, could i use these settings? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing Mark - i would of bought it but mines in the bodyshop getting done, any pics though? I really like the purple HKS cam gears, just for the looks they would look great in my purple engine bay..... To polish up the stock ones, do these just unbolt off and bolt back on, they won't need setting up either will they? Thats an idea Monkeys is same as this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 paul - i have the hks cam gears and have heard that they wear over time (i have mine exposed so that may be the reason!), something to do with the quality of metal used IIRC. i believe the JUN cam gears are meant to be made of substantially better material. my 2p of course ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 How much do the Jun ones go for though? I was thinking about just getting mine polished and exposing them by cutting the engine cover, that might look good. I just liked the purple HKS ones, they look well nice spinning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 conventional wisdom dictates that you NOT expose the cam gears by cutting. if you must - get lexan covers so you can see them spinning. not sure what the jun ones go for but ask any of the traders on here and they should be able to get you a price. IIRC - they didn't cost much more than the HKS ones ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 I know, i thought about that, muck and dirt getting in there, theres alot of Supras like that though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 granted but why take the chance mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I had the opportunity yesterday to inspect the cam gears of a supra that had them exposed. Simply running my finger along the teeth of the cam gear (obviously the engine wasn't running ) demonstrated to me how much crap gets in there compared to how suprisingly clean mine are. It's not just "a big rock" that needs to get in there, it's the buildup of crud that will do the damage. Abrade, abrade, snap. Lexan cover if you are intent on being completely J -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Cheers for the info guys, think I’ll give this a miss for now then, you pay a lot of money for the cam gears, they probably make no difference to performance, then you have to get them fitted and setup etc, then you expose the cam gears and risk the chance of ruining them or your engine. Cheers, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Also of note, Terry "Vortex" Saunders also did some empirical testing on his old purple monster and found that 0deg and 0deg were the best balance between torque and bhp, so not much use having adjustable cam gears then -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I also had a set of HKS gear on there exposed which, after approx. 1 year had edges so sharp they took about 1/3rd of the teeth off the belt. Not happy, and HKS' answer was that they should NEVER have been left exposed. No warranty or anything. If I had HKS pistons it would have been very nasty You have been warned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Cheers Terry, definetly leaving the stock ones in now, unexposed aswell Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Paul, as with most stuff on the MKIV Toyota got it right. They used steel rings unlike HKS' aluminium. This is what makes the Jun ones superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C Also of note, Terry "Vortex" Saunders also did some empirical testing on his old purple monster and found that 0deg and 0deg were the best balance between torque and bhp, so not much use having adjustable cam gears then -Ian What, the timings that Toyota would have spent a couple of hundred man hours and thousands of Yen working out? No way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Originally posted by Darren Blake What, the timings that Toyota would have spent a couple of hundred man hours and thousands of Yen working out? No way! God bless America;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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