SupraD06 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 hi all, bit late now as ive taken it off and had a kit fitted on now but is it safe to remove the steal bar that protects the front of the car incase of a crash, ive noticed on most peoples car that it must have been removed or it would be visible when you have a wide mouth kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Mines gone off my car I think it has to be removed when fitting most aftermarket front bumpers with only a few exceptions. I wouldt worry about it, just dont crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Same as removing the airbag, you pays your money, you takes your chances... I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It would make me cringe driving mine without the crash bar. IIRC they're used to distribute the force of a collision across the entire front of the car, preventing whatever it is you've hit from slicing through one corner (like the driver's side in a head on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It would make me cringe driving mine without the crash bar. IIRC they're used to distribute the force of a collision across the entire front of the car, preventing whatever it is you've hit from slicing through one corner (like the driver's side in a head on). Hmm!! Not good this, I think I would rather have the maximum crash protection than anything else but as Gaz said, you pays your money and takes your chances. Do your passengers feel the same though! Looking good over safety is never a good combination! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I understand they are only good in a small shunt ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I understand they are only good in a small shunt ( I thought they were there to protect the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garetheves Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Safe as long as you dont crash....So dont crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Maybe I'm getting confused between modern crash bars and the one on the supra. I'm thinking of the recent fifth gear with a small modern family car against a big 'ol volvo, crashing driver's side to driver's side (basically headlight to headlight) at 40mph. The modern family car distributed the shock of the impact along the whole front of the car using the crash bar, so although there was virtually nothing left of the engine bay, the passenger compartment was untouched. The volvo on the other hand was a mess - the one side of the car that had been hit simply couldn't dissipate the force across a wide enough area, so the impact had reached the driver - the passenger compartment was wrecked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 In a low speed crash that bar stops much more damage from happening to the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoolsBlue Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 think about it, a little alloy bar wont stop the front of the car getting smashed in thats why its actually called the BUMPER REINFORCEMENT BAR its to do with the bumper and the sponge bit, nothing to help prevent damage to the car, ever seen a crashed supra with one of them bars on? they get destroyed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 think about it, a little alloy bar wont stop the front of the car getting smashed in thats why its actually called the BUMPER REINFORCEMENT BAR its to do with the bumper and the sponge bit, nothing to help prevent damage to the car, ever seen a crashed supra with one of them bars on? they get destroyed! I disagree, that ally bar will absorb impact which is what it is designed to do - dissapate energy before it reaches the cabin. In an accident we could be talking about a few cm's of cabin intrusion causing serious leg injuries to the occupants. But style wins through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 think about it, a little alloy bar wont stop the front of the car getting smashed in They're not supposed to. They're supposed to absorb the impact of the crash, not survive it. Ideally you want the front of the car to take the full force, so the passenger cell doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoolsBlue Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 i see hmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 also need to take them out when fitting a FMIC I belive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 check out Gamer's crash without one....he certainly wished he had it in from the posts at the time, how much it would've prevented, don't know, but it's there for a reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 also need to take them out when fitting a FMIC I belive. FMIC's sit behind the 'crash bar' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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