CJ Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I am not sure if this should go here on tech other but anyway. I have had my 1994 Gen 6 Auto Celica for a number of years and it has always run fine and dandy. In fact, I drove it down here to Kos back in June and it never missed a beat but just recently I have noticed the fuel consumption is not quite as good as it was. I am currently getting about 25 MPG and wondered if you think this should be better. The car was last serviced in May and has since done about 4000 miles. I currently do a lot of short trips of no more than 4-5 miles per time. Does that affect the MPG? I also read that after a while (and higher mileage) I may need to change the O2 sensor. My car has now done about 100k miles - so should I look to change this? Now, bear in mind that I currently spend about 20 euro per week tops so should I bother at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Probably worth giving the plug and filter a change for the money it'll cost you but the 02 sensor could be the cause of your woes. I guess an auto Celica on short journeys is never going to be the ultimate MPG machine though so maybe 25mpg is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Short trips are MPG killers, cold oil, not getting into closed loop straight away, cold start enrichment, blah blah. Sounds like the car is fine but usage has changed that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 I think you're both right guys. Maybe if I got off my arse and walked the short distances it might prove to be of benefit to my pocket and my health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Is it the 3sfe or 3sge engine mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Is it the 3sfe or 3sge engine mate ? I am not sure TBH. It is a Jap import if that makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's the short trips CJ. (And the extra weight it's probably carrying around these days too. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i'd say 4-5 miles is too long to walk for you , specially if your not used to it, go on ebay and look at some pedal bikes. something there might take you're fancy. If those short trips involve stop-starting, like at lights or to give way, then that's thats going to reduce mpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Cj, the car might benefit from a longer spirited blast, just to clear the cobwebs out! My Gen4 auto Celica I'm sure, returned better figures than that, but as CW the short journeys are a mpg killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's the short trips CJ. (And the extra weight it's probably carrying around these days too. ) I think you are right. It must be all those free DVD's I get sent i'd say 4-5 miles is too long to walk for you , specially if your not used to it, go on ebay and look at some pedal bikes. something there might take you're fancy. If those short trips involve stop-starting, like at lights or to give way, then that's thats going to reduce mpg. During the season I walk about 5 miles a night but now that has ended the exercise level is quite low. Pedal bike hey? You obviously didn't read my "I've been knocked down" thread. Cj, the car might benefit from a longer spirited blast, just to clear the cobwebs out! My Gen4 auto Celica I'm sure, returned better figures than that, but as CW the short journeys are a mpg killer. As you have all said, it is definitely the short trips - so maybe 25 mpg is not too bad after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The 3sfe engine (138bhp) was in the first batch of gen6 celica's and am sure was a single cam engine , toyota quicky realised it was a bit poo and quickly changed the GT engine to the more powerful 3sge (178bhp) . I had a 94 Gen6 GT import and it had the 3sfe engine and could get 30 odd mpg maybe more .... but when the big ends went i up-graded to the 3sge and found that it was a bit worse on fuel , delivering maybe only 25mpg . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Could be worth changing the air filter though, for the few quid it'll cost? I found a load of leaves blocking mine once (on an old runaround - the Supra gets pampered!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think I will give her a service soon and see if that helps. I might also change the O2 sensor as that cannot cost much eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think I will give her a service soon and see if that helps. I might also change the O2 sensor as that cannot cost much eh? Dunno mate, my technical experience limit stretches only as far as air filters (and maybe the occasional delimit-fitting ). EDIT - Plus, I guess, it depends on what you call "much" - is stuff cheap out there? I know my mate in Malta likes emailing me to say he can get 5 pints down the pub for the equivalent of about a pound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Dunno mate, my technical experience limit stretches only as far as air filters (and maybe the occasional delimit-fitting ). Well I wish I had done the delimiter on mine now as i could do with taking it off to go back to KMH but have no idea how to do it EDIT - Plus, I guess, it depends on what you call "much" - is stuff cheap out there? I know my mate in Malta likes emailing me to say he can get 5 pints down the pub for the equivalent of about a pound! Well, certain things are very cheap out here. Rent, electric, water, food etc are all cheap. Beer is not too bad providing you dont go to the tourist areas and I pay 2 euro for a pint bottle of Heineken. Spirits and wine are incredibly cheap are can be bought almost anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well I wish I had done the delimiter on mine now as i could do with taking it off to go back to KMH but have no idea how to do it On the Celica I assume? If it were a Supra then I'd be happy to help mate. Well, certain things are very cheap out here. Rent, electric, water, food etc are all cheap. erm, what else is there!? Beer is not too bad providing you dont go to the tourist areas and I pay 2 euro for a pint bottle of Heineken. Spirits and wine are incredibly cheap are can be bought almost anywhere. Can I come and stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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