Daston Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Fitted my CR's my fronts are fine and dandy however my rear ones seem to have a bit of play in them. On closer inspection it appears that the rear hubs (the part attached to the disks) are moving slightly around 1mm this is causing the car to wobble a fair bit. Anyone had any troubles fitting these to standard OEM studs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Isn't that a wheel bearing issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Could be you need a hub ring mate. Studs hold the wheel on but do NOT support it. See Nics posts about two days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 The nuts should still centre the wheel and hold it tight if they have the normal tapered seat. If the studs are too long for the nuts then they won't clamp the wheel down tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Isn't that a wheel bearing issue? Nah there is no play in the bearing housing just the hub/disk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Are you using Spiggots? If not then there lies your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Spriggots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Spriggots? They sit on the inside of the wheel to fill any gap between the inner diameter of the wheel and outer diameter of your hub meaning it's the hub that is taking weight of said wheel rather than your wheel studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Even if you haven't got spiggot/hub centric rings, the nuts should still centre the wheel and hold it tight if they have the normal tapered seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Even if you haven't got spiggot/hub centric rings, the nuts should still centre the wheel and hold it tight if they have the normal tapered seat. True. Would you chance it without them though? You did say that you had to change the studs though didn't you Daston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 There was a plastic ring that sat fitted on the inside of the wheel that fits snug to the centre of the hub is that the Spiggot? I had to change the studs because the ones that were on there were cut down to make way for spacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I had to change the studs because the ones that were on there were cut down to make way for spacers. it does not follow that the studs were cut down to accomodate spacers.......if anything they are usually lengthen when spacers are fitted........ This seems more likely to me If the studs are too long for the nuts then they won't clamp the wheel down tight. are your nuts hollow like stock ones or do they have a capped top ie a finite depth of thread/stud they will except? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 it does not follow that the studs were cut down to accomodate spacers.......if anything they are usually lengthen when spacers are fitted........ normally yes, but i believe these were actually bolt on spacers with the spacers themselves having studs in them to which you bolt the wheels? can you confirm this Daston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 There was a plastic ring that sat fitted on the inside of the wheel that fits snug to the centre of the hub is that the Spiggot? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Something sounds wrong Dave, but I'd bet its not the wheels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 normally yes, but i believe these were actually bolt on spacers with the spacers themselves having studs in them to which you bolt the wheels? can you confirm this Daston? Yep that was right they were bolt on jobbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 There was a plastic ring that sat fitted on the inside of the wheel that fits snug to the centre of the hub is that the Spiggot? I had to change the studs because the ones that were on there were cut down to make way for spacers. Yes. Spigot, hub ring semantics don't matter. These things do. I'll see if Ican find the post by Nic that shows what happens when you do it wrong. Worried me so much I immediately pm'ed Gaz at Envy about my wheels. Thread is by Robbo. "Bolt on Spacers" 13/05/07 Read it all bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Cheers for that read both articals and my CR's do have the Sprigot fitted and that part is nice and snug to the hub. I guess the offset would be suited to the supra although I am not 100% sure as I didnt look to be honest. I think my plan tonight is refit the old wheels and if they wobble then I know it is something wrong with the hub or disk and not the wheels. What are the chances for be bending the hub when tapping the old studs out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 What are the chances for be bending the hub when tapping the old studs out? Can happen, we've supplied several sets of brakes and wheels which initially don't fit, once we've told them the studs are possibly bent it turns out that is the problem. Gaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Is there a simple test I can carry out to see if the hub is warped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 right it dosnt look like the wheels are the problem (thank fuk for that) as my old one does the same thing. When the brake drum/housing/disk goes back on does it only go on one way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 another update Just put 5 nuts directly to the drum and used a adjustable spanner (padded) as a lever on the disk there dosnt appear to be any movement. So it appears that this problem only comes about when wheels are put on. Anyone got any idea what could be doing this? Kinda shot myself in the foot now as I have no way of getting the car to a mechanic to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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