Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 In terms of PC processors..... Can anyone tell me what the f**k the difference is between the terms in the thread title, i.e. physically? Is it just the pin location on the underside of the processor chip itself? My laptop shows that it accepts 479 Ball uFCBGA / 478 Pin uFCPGA. I bought a chip from ebay that states it was FCPGA and it doesn't want to fit, due to the 1 pin on the underside, being in the wrong position. Anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 well I'm not 100% sure but this http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/desguide/25302604.pdf or the other dev docs from intel should tell you what you need to know, hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 I saw that, but it didn't really help me too much. Basically, my current Intel Celeron M 340 1.5 Gig has one pin configuration and the new one I got, an Intel Celeron 430 1.73 Gig has another. Can't find out why, other than the uFCPGA and FCPGA difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 See examples... New Chip layout on Left, old on Right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Right Ben, you've got me, that spot the difference competition is too hard I would imagine that the Celeron M is the bit that makes the difference. usually sockets with different numbers aren't pin compatible, However I suspect that a Socket 478 chip might fit in a socket 479 socket, but I doubt the reverse is true. This is mere speculation Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 The difference is in the top right hand corner, one of the pin positions has moved, and I cannot find what type of chip I have. All photos of 478 and 479 pins are as the left hand side, but mine is telling me that it is a "Package Type - 479 Ball u FCBGA / 478 Pin u FCPGA" but I can't find any other evidence to support the pin movement.... And the fact that the above pictures are on a desktop Mobo you can ignore, they are simple to show the pin locations I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 More detailed location of pin change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I was convinced you'd posted the same image twice, looking at those pin arrangements there's no way that the two would be interchangable. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Just realised that you already knew that - sorry mate, not at my most helpful at the moment Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 just found this simple description of the differences - mainly physical http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s-479-Socket-Explained-and-Compared-to-the-478_W0QQugidZ10000000000074521 i think (I was right) that the difference is to distinguish between the lower power 'M' version, and the fully blown desktop version. both packages have 478 pins - just to add to the confusion. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 I was convinced you'd posted the same image twice, looking at those pin arrangements there's no way that the two would be interchangable. Mike Yes, I know.... Just realised that you already knew that - sorry mate, not at my most helpful at the moment Mike Indeed... just found this simple description of the differences - mainly physical http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s-479-Socket-Explained-and-Compared-to-the-478_W0QQugidZ10000000000074521 i think (I was right) that the difference is to distinguish between the lower power 'M' version, and the fully blown desktop version. both packages have 478 pins - just to add to the confusion. Mike That is EXACTLY what I was after, why can't fecking Intels website tell you that? No google searches brought that info up. So I have bought a 478 pin processor, and need a 479 pin (that has 478 pins). Bloody Intel! Thanks Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Yes, I know.... Indeed... That is EXACTLY what I was after, why can't fecking Intels website tell you that? No google searches brought that info up. So I have bought a 478 pin processor, and need a 479 pin (that has 478 pins). Bloody Intel! Thanks Mike! Glad I was able to help ..... eventually Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottschick Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 lol WHAT???? far to many letters for me hope you guys got it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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