Miguel Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Yeah what we're saying is that it's not the cars fault - the researchers were rubbish and basically chucked 30k down the drain. Maybe I should be a researcher as Ian says I'm good at spending other people's money If they wanted British then it should have been a TVR...but I'm guessing they went for something with turbo's....cause all the jap cars that have them are highly moddable....as we know. Good old rover sdi with 30k thown it the front would have done it LOL:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Good old rover sdi with 30k thown it the front would have done it LOL:p Lets face it the problem was how much they spent on the base car.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Lets face it the problem was how much they spent on the base car.... Nah thats fools logic that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Nah thats fools logic that is What are you on about? They had a limited budget and wasted it on the base car. When they could have bought something else and done far more with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Maybe next year they will know what car to use, after all they cant ignore the Supra forever, and for a lot less than £30K they could buy Terrys car and do 200mph as often as they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 What are you on about? They had a limited budget and wasted it on the base car. When they could have bought something else and done far more with it... Nope don't follow...that concept excapes me ....must fill in this form for a job on 5th gear. sorry explain that again ..so we spend all the money on buying the car yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 you mean spend less on the car and more on the mods, for sure, 25k on a car itself is rediculous really! I would have thought no more than 10k on the car would suffice, leaving loads for mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I've done a bit of Math here.. correct me if Im wrong.... 200 MPH is around 600bhp in a 6 speed with a 8000RPM Redline, although only 7650 is prob needed. 6.5k for an early TT 6 speed. 3.0k on a good quality large turbo conversion 1 K on seconhand Breathing bits 0.5k on 272 Cams 1k on ECU and mapping 0.5k a good service 0.5k Fuel system Total:- 12.5k. Not saying this will be the best car, but prob the cheapest for 200 Leps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I've done a bit of Math here.. correct me if Im wrong.... 200 MPH is around 600bhp in a 6 speed with a 8000RPM Redline, although only 7650 is prob needed. 6.5k for an early TT 6 speed. 3.0k on a good quality large turbo conversion 1 K on seconhand Breathing bits 0.5k on 272 Cams 1k on ECU and mapping 0.5k a good service Total:- 12k. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Good luck! LOVl... not me thanks, 194 is my limit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 you'll need more than 600bhp to break 200mph in the space they were trying to do it in. and don't forget the clutch:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 LOVl... not me thanks, 194 is my limit! 112 is mine!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 you'll need more than 600bhp to break 200mph in the space they were trying to do it in. and don't forget the clutch:) or the fuel system There is a good set of calcs on http://www.mkiv.co.nz go to tech about 3/4 of the way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Nope don't follow...that concept excapes me ....must fill in this form for a job on 5th gear. sorry explain that again ..so we spend all the money on buying the car yeah Dude I think you're trying to make the same point as me..... 200mph on a budget with a british car was the premise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Dude I think you're trying to make the same point as me..... 200mph on a budget with a british car was the premise... Ah a british car...... Hmmmmmmm Rover 200 BRM it is then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Even 5thG could have picked a better car from another country...Corvette...Supra...so it has to have been limited to a UK car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I must say though, It wasnt a particularly good advert for MA or MArk S hey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 Nice to see so much enthusiasm here. I think the point is probably now covered - money badly spent! Very poor research! And I still think the car was a pile of pooh to start with - maybe a little harsh and I am sorry if it offends, the base car could have been a far better choice. If they wanted British they could have purchased a Cerbera and mod-ed that for 32k and definitely hit 200+. One has to ask if they were just having a pop at the old Lotus - not worth the money perhaps? After all it did fail very soon after they purchased it for a staggering 25k, they had to save face somewhere. Thank you for all your input and thoughts. Very interesting debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I must say though, It wasnt a particularly good advert for MA or MArk S hey? Mark Shead or Sheady. Mark is a really nice bloke and tuned the Autronic I had in the Purple car. He also tunes Leons car now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I must say though, It wasnt a particularly good advert for MA or MArk S hey? How was it not a good advert - he tuned the Sapphire that went 206mph!!... or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Mark Shead or Sheady. Mark is a really nice bloke and tuned the Autronic I had in the Purple car. He also tunes Leons car now. Wasnt saying he wasnt, just remarking at seems like they were portrid in bad light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I thought he did the Corolla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 No that was Fensport...and the gearbox blowing isn't exactly amazing is it? 4WD and it broke on launch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Nice to see so much enthusiasm here. I think the point is probably now covered - money badly spent! Very poor research! And I still think the car was a pile of pooh to start with - maybe a little harsh and I am sorry if it offends, the base car could have been a far better choice. If they wanted British they could have purchased a Cerbera and mod-ed that for 32k and definitely hit 200+. One has to ask if they were just having a pop at the old Lotus - not worth the money perhaps? After all it did fail very soon after they purchased it for a staggering 25k, they had to save face somewhere. Thank you for all your input and thoughts. Very interesting debate. For the cheapest Cerbera with an MOT, you are talking 17k. Tuning the AJP8 costs a bloody fortune for sod all gain- the post powerful 4.5 I know of barely has more than 415bhp iirc. As far as I know, no TVR before the Sagaris ever went near a wind tunnel, and they have a habbit of trying to blow their bonnets off over 150mph- rather you than me mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Also, according to TVR's ex PR man, the Cerb runs out of revs at 192mph, unless yo change the rear diff, which will retard acceleration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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