Paul Laing Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Anyone help me out My cars rear suspension has been knocking for the past month and while i was driving lastnight going sensibly round a bend it started to feel different! It judders and jerks about while going round a corner, or change gear. Anyone know what this is? Is it my suspension finally going and i need to buy new dampers? Or is it worse?? Theres a banging noise aswell as the judders and shakes when going round corners which sounds like the wheels gonna fall off. Iv'e checked the bolts and there fine! When you get out of the car and shake the back end you can hear it creaking and continues to do so for a few seconds when you stop shaking. This is starting to worry me as the cars undrivable!!! HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 You have checked to see if all the wheel nuts are there and done up tightly haven't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 yep, tried that mate. There spot on. When you turn a corner theres a cracking noise from the rear, aswell as a knocking noise. Reckon it's just the dampers?? It's only from the rear the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Do you have stock wheels ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 no but there 17s, and the same size as stock ones. I'm sure it's the shockers. Could i leave the standard ones on the front and buy 2 KYB ones for the rear??? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 The symptoms do NOT sound like shockers to me at all, sounds far more serious, get it looked at ASAP, preferably don't drive it, certainly not fast anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by ImportSupra I'm sure it's the shockers. Could i leave the standard ones on the front and buy 2 KYB ones for the rear? Yeah you could do that no problem. When you said you "checked the bolts and there(sic) fine" were you talking about the damper bolts? With the rear wheels off you should be able to tell if the damper has got a fucked bush(Ooo err Mrs) or not. Sounds like the probable cause to me at least. If you can't tell by doing this what I'd do is take the damper off completely and drive round the block to see if the noise has gone. Don't drive far (or fast) without dampers fitted though, obviously. Anyway once you have got the damper off it should be pretty obvious if one of the bushes has gone. Otherwise it might be a problem with one of the other bushes on the suspension. (edit to change spelling mistake "witted" to "fitted") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by dunk657 Yeah you could do that no problem. When you said you "checked the bolts and there(sic) fine" were you talking about the damper bolts? With the rear wheels off you should be able to tell if the damper has got a fucked bush(Ooo err Mrs) or not. Sounds like the probable cause to me at least. If you can't tell by doing this what I'd do is take the damper off completely and drive round the block to see if the noise has gone. Don't drive far (or fast) without dampers witted though, obviously. Anyway once you have got the damper off it should be pretty obvious if one of the bushes has gone. Otherwise it might be a problem with one of the other bushes on the suspension. Hmm, driving with no rear spring will be an interesting experience for the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by Chris Wilson Hmm, driving with no rear spring will be an interesting experience for the man Spring? I said damper not spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by dunk657 Spring? I said damper not spring This is all too much for me, I am going to bed, tell him someone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by Chris Wilson This is all too much for me, I am going to bed, tell him someone..... LOL! They don't have seperate springs and dampers? doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by dunk657 LOL! They don't have seperate springs and dampers? doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by Chris Wilson Bollocks! Made a fool of meself again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 FFS, I had the wheels off yesterday! Yeah, they're like the front suspension on a regular car, I remember now. (is that what's called MacPherson type strut? or am I waaay off again?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 26, 2003 Author Share Posted May 26, 2003 spoke to my dad about this and he reckons that when the shockers are gone, cars judder nround corners etc. I'll put new shockers in and see what happens. Can't believe nobodys had the same problem as me, theres loads of people on this board. Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 have u checked all the rear subframe bolts and all suspension linkages, it dont sound like knackered shocks to me. theres no broken springs? what about the shocker mounting on the turett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 26, 2003 Author Share Posted May 26, 2003 checked the suspension today, it's the rear shocks. They are totally gone! You can see the rubbers have come away and you can see the shaft of the damper!!! It looks really bad, it's totally came away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by ImportSupra checked the suspension today, it's the rear shocks. They are totally gone! You can see the rubbers have come away and you can see the shaft of the damper!!! It looks really bad, it's totally came away!!! The rubber bellows that I believe you are taloking about are just dust and road dirt protectors and have zero influence on the efficiency of the dampers. They can be split, ragged or missing altogether and have no effect on the efficacy of the dampers performance. Still think it's NOT a damper problem, I have a car that comes to me with well over 200,000 miles on it, on original dampers and that doesn't do what you describe your car as doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 26, 2003 Author Share Posted May 26, 2003 the fronts have been changed i think as there white and the rears are black and have toyota on them. If it's not the dampers then what could it be? Theres loads of leaking around the top and bottom of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daneway Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 With all the various "Supe noises" we all report from time to time we should get and record them and post them for comparison ! Check ball joints on the top and bottom suspension arms. A pal's Supe exhibited a similar if less worrying "cracking/creaking" before replacement. Joints seemed completely solid, no amount of levering the joints with the wheel off would show any movement. In desperation he changed the joints anyway (both sides for consistency) and the noise went away! Best o' luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted May 28, 2003 Author Share Posted May 28, 2003 spoke to someone in a 'mondeo' and there shocks went and it was the same symptoms as mine. I should have the shocks arriving today, along with my timing belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 well it ain't the shocks! Changed them on sunday, and same noise.................... Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Check all the bolts that hold the suspension together! (wasn't that suggested about three pages back?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 I have just had the new rear shocks fitted so wouldn't that be checking the bolts? Everything looked fine under the car. What noise would it make if the bushes were gone? The car sqeeks when you get out the car and shake the back end. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 There are a fair few other bolts to check, such as subframe bolts etc. I would say that with symptoms as dramatic as you describe, the odds are that something mechanical has worked loose rather than an item wearing out gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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